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Fifth Column
Al Franken, liberal hawk?
2005-06-24
Well, to Tom Hayden he is
Is anyone else disappointed with Al Franken's daily defense of the continued war in Iraq? Not Bush's version of the war, because that would undermine Air America's laudable purpose of rallying an anti-Bush audience. But, well, Kerry's version of the war, one that can be better managed and won, somehow with better body armor and fewer torture cells. This morning Franken was endorsing Sen. Joe Biden's proposal to send 5,000 NATO troops to close the Syrian-Iraq border, bring in foreign trainers for the Iraqi officer corps, and put Iraqis to work cleaning up the destruction of our invasion. "Last chance to get it right."

But get what right? Now that Bush has manipulated us into the invasion, Franken thinks, we have no choice but to...stay until we crush the insurgents. It's a humanitarian excuse for open-ended American occupation. And it's shared widely by the professional political and pundit class who think of themselves as the conscience of the American establishment and the leadership of the Democratic Party.

It gets worse. Last week the Center for American Progress, a lavishly-funded think tank mainly for Clinton officials in exile, issued a paper calling for greater efforts at military recruiting to fulfill our "moral" obligations in Iraq.

Who knows, maybe it's possible to "crush the insurgency", "fix the pottery", and leave. The estimated calendar for these achievements runs from two years (Biden) to five or ten years (Pentagon sources). That's at one billion dollars per week.

Meanwhile, the majority of Iraqis, the people these humanitarian hawks seek to save, want the US to set a timetable for withdrawal. One hundred thousand have marched in Baghdad's streets for withdrawal. This week 82 members of the Iraqi parliament issued a statement demanding US withdrawal and criticising their leadership for reneging on pledges made to Iraqi voters.

Our government is the chief provocateur of the insurgency. Our government has installed a Shiite regime whose security forces are killing Sunnis. Our government is ignoring Iraqi opinion, and even Iraqi parliamentarians, who want to take their chances in an Iraq without our occupation.

Why can't Air America "liberals" support the Iraqi peace movement?
I love it when they eat their own
Posted by:Steve

#6  Bobby,

The protest Hayden is referring to is the April 2005 protest by Muqtada al-Sadr and his Iranian mullah masters demanding troops leave so they can impose a theocracy, and torture and execute heretics (i.e. anyone who does not think the same) in basements. As for the 100,000, Hayden must a proponent of Ethnomath (see other thread). CNN had a figure of "Several thousand". Iraqi protesters: 'No, no to America'.

Somebody tell Hayden that Franken's call for others to fight is not support for a war that started with an attempt to kill 50,000 people in Franken's home town. Hayden himself, is trying to relive his glory years. For him, it's always Cambodia 1975. And what is it about Biden trying to weasel out of the hard work, whether it's law school plagerism, claiming credit for things he has not done, or trying to get others to fight our war?

PS. When I read the title of this post, I thought it was satire from HuffingtonToast, but it seems in this day and age, irony is dead.
Posted by: ed   2005-06-24 17:59  

#5  Well LH Ima long time reader first time writer, hello? hello? what? Ima there? What? Hello? Steve? Hello? click.
Posted by: Shipman   2005-06-24 17:57  

#4  bidens a libhawk, though i cant vouch for his 5000. Dont know about Franken. Dont think id listen anyway. Talk radio bugs me.
Posted by: liberalhawk   2005-06-24 16:59  

#3  S"en. Joe Biden's proposal to send 5,000 NATO troops to close the Syrian-Iraq border." Like anyone in NATO has 5,000 troops to send to Iraq for border security.
Posted by: Cyber Sarge   2005-06-24 16:30  

#2  So how come I don't see these articles about how "the majority of Iraqis, the people these humanitarian hawks seek to save, want the US to set a timetable for withdrawal."? Huh?

Or that "One hundred thousand have marched in Baghdad's streets for withdrawal."? If true, that'd be about 2% of the population of the city. Can the number be "independently verified"?

Now I can believe this, "This week 82 members of the Iraqi parliament issued a statement demanding US withdrawal and criticising their leadership for reneging on pledges made to Iraqi voters." because there's 275 members of Parliment, so the complainers number just 30%, about the same as the LLL wackos, here.

You guys holdin' out on us? Where's all this baaaaaad news?
Posted by: Bobby   2005-06-24 15:47  

#1  Tom Hayden?
They making dumpsters with internet access now?
Posted by: tu3031   2005-06-24 14:44  

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