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Congress Likely to Step Into GITMO Operations
2005-06-20
Congress is likely to step into the operation of the Guantanamo Bay detention center with legislation on how the U.S. should legally categorize an unorthodox enemy.
Congress does have a role, and legislation is proper. The whole issue of 'illegal combatants' has vexed the world for a century. The Prussians just shot them, as did we in WWII. But that was different than today, and having some sort of plan is a good idea. And let's get it done now while the Repubs are in charge of both houses.
Fitting the enemy in the war on terror into the proper niche is challenging. Al Qaeda terrorists do not wear a uniform. They target civilians and never signed the Geneva Convention governing the treatment of wartime detainees.

The Bush administration set what it thought would be a unilateral and a long-lasting policy after the September 11 attacks. It deemed terrorists caught in the Afghanistan-Pakistan region as enemy combatants entitled to trial only by military commissions. But those plans began unraveling after accusations of mild detainee mistreatment and a Supreme Court ruling that detainees had a right to court hearings. The lower federal courts are wrestling with the ruling's ramifications, and the commission-style trials have been put on hold.

Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Arlen Specter, Pennsylvania Republican, convened the first hearing last week on legal issues at the Guantanamo prison. The witnesses provided the first in-depth public discussion of how the Bush administration views al Qaeda detention in the long term. In the process, officials offered a vigorous defense of holding al Qaeda members rather than giving them another chance to kill Americans.
Any elected official who advocates letting go the people who have avowed to kill Americans should be reminded of this, often, on the campaign trail.
"The detention of enemy combatants serves the vital military objective of preventing captured combatants from rejoining the conflict and gathering intelligence to further the overall war effort and to prevent additional attacks against our country," said J. Michael Wiggins, deputy associate U.S. attorney general. "Some of those individuals are being held at Guantanamo Bay."

Air Force Brig. Gen. Thomas L. Hemingway, who is chief legal adviser to the appointing authority for the military commissions, added, "I think that we can hold them as long as the conflict endures. But we have ... a very detailed process for releasing them if they no longer present a threat."

Sen. Patrick J. Leahy, Vermont Democrat and a strong advocate for detainee rights, asked, "Well, we now have a government in Afghanistan, yet the conflict continues. Is that what you're saying?" Gen. Hemingway replied, "The conflict is not with the government of Afghanistan. The conflict is with a nonstate organization."
What a great thing to be labeled a 'strong advocate for detainee rights'. Sorta like being labeled a 'strong advocate for al-Qaeda' or a 'strong advocate for the KKK'. Hemingway zings it back just right.
Another Democrat, Joseph R. Biden Jr. of Delaware, worried about how the Muslim world viewed Guantanamo, noting, "We have to deal with the 1.2 billion Muslims in the world. And guess what, General? We're doing real badly. We're doing real badly on that part of the war. Matter of fact, it's a disaster."
thanks to you and your buddies, yes it is
So says the man who's thinking about running for President. The 24 million people in Iraq have a different opinon -- many different opinions -- but to hell with them, eh?
Part of the screening process involved conducting hearings for each inmate to determine whether he was an enemy combatant. The panels last spring confirmed that all but 38 fall into that category. The Pentagon is releasing the 38, but has had trouble finding countries to take 15 of them.
Sorta says something, doesn't it.
So far, the Pentagon has released more than 200 detainees. About 10 have resurfaced on the battlefield in Afghanistan and been killed or captured, administration officials said.

Sen. Lindsey Graham, South Carolina Republican, endorsed the idea of using some type of stress to induce captured terrorists to talk. "We need to look at a way to standardize that because I worry about some of our own troops getting prosecuted under our own laws if we don't have standardization," he said.
Oh shit, why not just publish all the rules up front so the prisoners know what to expect. Hell, we could even publish a schedule - you know, touching Korans at 0830, strippers at 0845 etc.
At the same time, we have to defend our troops against the malicious attacks from the Looney Left, and having some rules helps to do that.
Posted by:too true

#13  Lets start by establishing a comparison with a tour first of Attica, Pelican Bay....

Let's add that other garden spot, Angola State Prison in Louisiana. It's 40 miles from anywhere, surrounded on three sides by swamps filled with 'gators, copperheads, and water moccisains, the temperature ranges from 0F to 112F, humidity is ALWAYS 100%, and the walls are always wet and slimy. Just to make sure Congress knows what they're doing, let's let ALL of them spend a month there, longer if necessary.
Posted by: Old Patriot   2005-06-20 23:25  

#12  :) Mojo
Posted by: Shipman   2005-06-20 19:43  

#11  Lets start by establishing a comparison with a tour first of Attica, Pelican Bay....
Posted by: Jong Cravirong9792   2005-06-20 18:02  

#10  Move Gitmo to Vermont with Leaky Leahy. Let the Dummicrats watch 'em.
Posted by: Captain America   2005-06-20 17:58  

#9  I'd be more comfortable with that phrase if it read "entirely".

I'm leaving room for our "allies" like France and Saudi Arabia.
Posted by: Robert Crawford   2005-06-20 15:42  

#8  "...in large part..."

I'd be more comfortable with that phrase if it read "entirely".

I was a Democrat for over thirty years; but I swear, I will never, EVER vote for another one of those goddamn lying traitors so long as I live.
Posted by: Dave D.   2005-06-20 14:29  

#7  Follow the Geneva Conventions for illegal combatants.

Shoot the bastards.
Posted by: Barbara Skolaut   2005-06-20 14:29  

#6  He was clearly referring here to the broader picture.

For Biden, the "bigger picture" is his presidential campaign.

And if we're "doing badly" it's in large part due to the treason of Biden's party.
Posted by: Robert Crawford   2005-06-20 13:59  

#5  "The 24 million people in Iraq have a different opinon -- many different opinions -- but to hell with them, eh?"

Joe Biden has been Iraq five times I think, and has reported back recently on progress on training Iraqi forces. He is NOT one of those who ignore the people of Iraq, as the loony left does. He was clearly referring here to the broader picture.
Posted by: liberalhawk   2005-06-20 13:41  

#4  I have an idea, why don't we allow those who want them released to become their sponsors. Anyone American national, who wants to sponsor a terrorist in their household can do so.

If these people believe that these prisoners are safe enough to be released to live somewhere, why not with them. That way, they can show the world that they truly believe what they say, that these poor little jihadi's can be reformed with a little love and tlc.
Posted by: 2b   2005-06-20 12:49  

#3  Congress, they'll fix everything!
Posted by: Mountain Man   2005-06-20 12:49  

#2  "Y'know kids, I bet if we all pitched in we could turn this new theatre into an old barn in nothing flat!"
-- Mickey Rooney
Posted by: mojo   2005-06-20 12:35  

#1  That's great. I'll remember this the next time I see them running from the Capitol and screaming like little girls when some flight instructor gets lost in his piper cub...
Posted by: tu3031   2005-06-20 12:34  

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