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Gitmo Interrogators= Nazis, Soviet Gulag & Pol Pot
2005-06-15
al-Jiz? BBC? MoveOn.org? Nope, Senator Dick Durbin D-Illinois remarks from the Senate floor last night:

"Polls show that Muslims have positive attitudes toward the American people and our values. However, overall, favorable ratings toward the United States and its Government are very low. This is driven largely by the negative attitudes toward the policies of this administration. Muslims respect our values, but we must convince them that our actions reflect these values. That's why the 9/11 Commission recommended:
We should offer an example of moral leadership in the world, committed to treat people humanely, abide by the rule of law, and be generous and caring to our neighbors.

What should we do? Imagine if the President had followed Colin Powell's
advice and respected our treaty obligations. How would things have been different?
We still would have the ability to hold detainees and to interrogate them aggressively. Members of al-Qaida would not be prisoners of war. We
would be able to do everything we need to do to keep our country safe. The difference is, we would not have damaged our reputation in the international community in the process. When you read some of the graphic descriptions of what has occurred here—I almost hesitate to put them in the RECORD, and yet they have to be added to this debate. Let me read to you what one FBI agent saw. And I quote from his report:

On a couple of occasions, I entered interview rooms to find a detainee chained hand and foot in a fetal position to the floor, with no chair, food or water. Most times they urinated or defecated on themselves, and had been left there for 18—24 hours or more. On one occasion, the air conditioning had been turned down so far and the temperature was so cold in the room, that the barefooted detainee was shaking with cold. . . . On another occasion, the [air conditioner] had been turned off, making the temperature in the unventilated room well over 100 degrees. The detainee was almost unconscious on the floor, with a pile of hair next to him. He had apparently been literally pulling his hair out throughout the night. On another occasion, not only was the temperature unbearably hot, but extremely loud rap music was being
played in the room, and had been since the day before, with the detainee chained hand and foot in the fetal position on the tile floor.

If I read this to you and did not tell you that it was an FBI agent describing what Americans had done to prisoners in their control, you would most certainly believe this must have been done by Nazis, Soviets in their gulags, or some mad regime—Pol Pot or others— that had no concern for human beings. Sadly, that is not the case. This was the action of Americans in the treatment of their prisoners."
Posted by:Steve

#18  Durbin assumes fetal position. Flush him and his Karen (post urination).
Posted by: Captain America   2005-06-15 22:29  

#17  .com & Fred

He's up for reelection in 2006. Hopefully, the Illinois Republican Party can come up with someone bright enough to beat him over the head with this until his brains start leaking out of his ears.

The only two problems I foresee in this:
1) the Illinois Republican Party coming up with anyone bright enough to walk and chew gum at the same time.
2) You'd have to beat Dildo a looooong time before you could get anything like brains leaking out of his ears.
Posted by: Darth VAda   2005-06-15 22:28  

#16  ...when somebody brings it up it becomes "the politix of personal destruction."

And the further left on the scale the wanker squats the more egregious is the sin of reminding them. Playing videos is specifically forbidden.
;-)
Posted by: .com   2005-06-15 22:11  

#15  Betcha drinks all around in whichever Rantapalooza occurs when Durbin runs again he's elected. It's an attention span thing. Voters don't remember this stuff, and when somebody brings it up it becomes "the politix of personal destruction."
Posted by: Fred   2005-06-15 22:04  

#14  "the monumental imbecility of this two-legged turd"

DV - I'd say you've clarified your thoughts and position, lol!

BTW, this is now being "featured" on Hannity & Colmes on Fox - and the Durbin tape proves your case. Sanctimonious drama queen. I believe the depths of exaggeration for TV have been plumbed.
Posted by: .com   2005-06-15 21:55  

#13  I would also like to apologize. This cretin represents my state, temporarily, until the next election. Hopefully, we'll be able to send Dildo Durbin back to whichever crack he climbed out of.

His utter and complete inability to comprehend the evil of Hitler, Stalin, Pol Pot...

Sorry...I've been seething at the monumental imbecility of this two-legged turd since I first heard about this.
Posted by: Darth VAda   2005-06-15 21:43  

#12  Pol Pot had no GITMO. Prisoners taken by the Khmer Rouge were interrogated briefly and then were shot.
Posted by: Super Hose   2005-06-15 21:42  

#11  Senator Steele. Yeah, I like the sound of that.
Posted by: eLarson   2005-06-15 20:35  

#10  No worries, eLarson! You can help us send Lt. Gov. Michael Steele into Paul Sarbanes' Senate seat...
Posted by: Seafarious   2005-06-15 17:47  

#9  On behalf of the citizens of the State of Illinois, I humbly apologize.

My only regret is that I'll be living in Maryland by the time this asshat comes up for re-election. These remarks look like a nice campaign ad.
Posted by: eLarson   2005-06-15 17:45  

#8  Its BS politics. Have to have something to bitch about on the other party, don't we? We got no control on this war - its Bushhitlerrummyrover's war and all we get to do is watch, find a little hiccup like gitmo and abu grhab and bitch, bitch, bitch. And these guys wonder why no one loves them anymore? If I was Karl Rove I would play the lottery everytime a Durbin, Kerry, Reid or Leahy opens his mouth. I mean this guy has the easiest job in the world - sort of like Tom Sawyer's. He gets everyone else to do it for him.
Posted by: Jack is Back!   2005-06-15 16:19  

#7  Bobby: Yeah, I'm a bit disappointed about some of this - not that they didn't deserve it, but we are supposed to be better than they are.

We are? Dunno about you, but if I had to decide (1) between being better than they are and (2) additional live GI's or American civilians, I would go for option 2 every single time, even if we had to feed every single terrorist into wood chippers feet first. I don't have to justify putting American lives ahead of our enemies' lives. If they mistreated people for pleasure, then they should be punished. But if it was done for operational reasons, to make the terrorists more talkative, I have no problem dousing them with gasoline.
Posted by: Zhang Fei   2005-06-15 16:11  

#6  Attica, Pelican Bay...many gulags operated by Dem's as governors and legislators. Oh, what, you say they house dangerous men?
Posted by: Craigum Thineter6031   2005-06-15 15:55  

#5  ..but we are supposed to be better than they are.

We are better than those barbarians by a long shot, even after all that has transpired. The margin isn't even close.
Posted by: Bomb-a-rama   2005-06-15 15:34  

#4  I'm invoking Godwin's Law. You lose, Senator.
Posted by: Seafarious   2005-06-15 15:32  

#3  Hey, Dick. What do you think Danny Pearl was thinking about before he got beheaded?
Take it somewhere else, I ain't buying it anymore...
Posted by: tu3031   2005-06-15 15:30  

#2  Sending him to a Gulag for a week of forced labor would do wonders for his perspective.
Posted by: mmurray821   2005-06-15 15:17  

#1  Yeah, I'm a bit disappointed about some of this - not that they didn't deserve it, but we are supposed to be better than they are.

However, can't somebody find some reports of Pol Pot's, Himmler's, and Stalin's detention camps to forward to the Senator from the grate state(©) of Illinois? Maybe he needs a bit of perspective.
Posted by: Bobby   2005-06-15 15:10  

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