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| Kurdish Officials Sanction Abductions in Kirkuk |
| 2005-06-15 |
| If you can get past the WaPo agenda of 'Kurds are nasty pople because they are cooperating with the Americans and arresting terrorist suspects and interrogating them, and shock-horror most suspects are not Kurds' then there is some interesting stuff in this report. Including Kurds are investigating Saddam era atrocities. This is page 1, another 4 pages at the link. Police and security units, forces led by Kurdish political parties and backed by the U.S. military, have abducted Read on and you find abducted is WaPo-speak for arrested hundreds of minority Arabs and Turkmens in this intensely volatile city and spirited them I'd guess they were driven to prisons in Kurdish-held northern Iraq, according to U.S. and Iraqi officials, government documents and families of the victims. Seized off the streets of Kirkuk or in joint U.S.-Iraqi raids, the men have been transferred secretly and in violation of Iraqi law to prisons in the Kurdish cities of Irbil and Sulaymaniyah, sometimes with the knowledge of U.S. forces. The detainees, including merchants, members of tribal families and soldiers, have often remained missing for months; some have been tortured, according to released prisoners and the Kirkuk police chief. The subtext here is the Kurds are taking over control of institutions and in the process ousting Saddame era appointees, such as the police chief. A confidential State Department cable, obtained by The Washington Post and addressed to the White House, Pentagon and U.S. Embassy in Baghdad, said the "extra-judicial detentions" were part of a "concerted and widespread initiative" initiative is a good word I like it. by Kurdish political parties "to exercise authority in Kirkuk in an increasingly provocative manner." The The cable said the 116th Brigade Combat Team, which oversees security in Kirkuk, had urged Kurdish officials (my guess these are elected officials or appointees of elected officials) to end the practice. "I can tell you that the coalition forces absolutely do not condone it," Brig. Gen. Alan Gayhart, the brigade commander, said in an interview. Kirkuk, a city of almost 1 million, is home to Iraq's most combustible mix of politics and economic power. Kurds, who are just shy of a majority in the city and are growing in number (I didn't realize WaPo was in the census business - actually they are quoting Saddam era stats but are too embarassed to say so), hope to make Kirkuk and the vast oil reserves beneath it part of an autonomous Kurdistan. Arabs and Turkmens compose most of the rest of the population. They have struck an alliance to curb the ambitions of the Kurds, who have wielded increasing authority in a long-standing collaboration with their U.S. allies. Some abductions occurred more than a year ago. But according to U.S. officials, Kirkuk police and Arab leaders, the campaign surged after the Jan. 30 elections consolidated the two main Kurdish parties' control over the Kirkuk provincial government That's WaPo-speak for - They won the election. The two parties are the Patriotic Union of Kurdistan and the Kurdistan Democratic Party. The U.S. military said it had logged 180 cases; Arab and Turkmen politicians put the number at more than 600 and said many families feared retribution for coming forward. U.S. and Iraqi officials, along with the State Department cable, said the campaign was being orchestrated and carried out by the Kurdish intelligence agency, known as Asayesh, and the Kurdish-led Emergency Services Unit, a 500-member anti-terrorism squad within the Kirkuk police force. Both are closely allied with the U.S. military. The intelligence agency is made up of Kurds, and the emergency unit is composed of a mixture of Kurds, Arabs and Turkmens. The cable indicated that the problem Sounds like a solution to me extended to Mosul, Iraq's third-largest city and the main city in the north, and regions near the Kurdish-controlled border with Turkey. The transfers occurred "without authority of local courts or the knowledge of Ministries of Interior or Defense in Baghdad," the State Department cable stated. U.S. military officials said judges they consulted in Kirkuk declared the practice illegal under Iraqi law. More Saddam era appointees? Early on, the campaign targeted former Baath Party officials and suspected insurgents, but it has since broadened. Among those seized and secretly transferred north were car merchants, businessmen, members of tribal families, Arab soldiers and, in one case, an 87-year-old farmer with diabetes. A former fighter pilot said his interrogation in Irbil focused in part on whether he participated in the chemical weapons attack on the Kurdish city of Halabja in March 1988, in which an estimated 5,000 people died. "I think it's about revenge," said the man, who identified himself as Abu Abdullah Jabbouri and who was released last week from the prison in Irbil. Nah, you will recognize revenge has occured when the bodies are stacked like cordwood. |
| Posted by:phil_b |
| #9 "Early on, the campaign targeted former Baath Party officials and suspected insurgents, but it has since broadened. Among those seized and secretly transferred north were car merchants, businessmen, members of tribal families, Arab soldiers and, in one case, an 87-year-old farmer with diabetes." car merchants or car bomb merchants? Businessmen or terrorist financier, members of tribal families or cousins of well known Sunni terrorists? Arab soldiers or insurgent paid intelligence agents who've embedded with the Iraqi forces? 87 year old farmer or 87 year old safehouse provider for insurgents? It all comes down to your point of view doesn't it! Not to say the Kurds aren't fielding hit squads and secret kidnapping rings, but revenge is a Motherf*@%ker aint it! |
| Posted by: Mountain Man 2005-06-15 16:57 |
| #8 WaPo writers have never seen an effective crime prevention regime. No wonder they misunderstand it. |
| Posted by: Frank G 2005-06-15 13:38 |
| #7 AOL News? Oh, puhlease. ;) |
| Posted by: Bomb-a-rama 2005-06-15 12:52 |
| #6 It's interesting to see that the WaPo and NYTimes genre of media don't recognize anyone but the U.S. as an authority in Iraq. That would seem to go against their philosophy that we should be making more progress in handing them their country back. Is it becaue any progress, enven percieved progress would be gratuitous to Bush? Read AOL news today, not a word about Wood being rescued, but "Bomb kills 24 in Iraq", and "Clinton pays off legal bill for impeachment" there is an entire half of the news that these assholes neglect to report because it might make you feel good about your country. |
| Posted by: bigjim-ky 2005-06-15 06:28 |
| #5 Well said, AP! |
| Posted by: .com 2005-06-15 04:55 |
| #4 Well I goofed it again, Sorry |
| Posted by: Uninetch Glinemp6338 2005-06-15 04:21 |
| #3 Sorry Alaska Paul for mentioning you as Alaska Paul |
| Posted by: Uninetch Glinemp6338 2005-06-15 04:19 |
| #2 Bravo Alaska pol. I am with you. |
| Posted by: Uninetch Glinemp6338 2005-06-15 04:17 |
| #1 The Kurds built quite a society under our air umbrella (no fly zone) during the Saddam era. If anyone deserves their own representative govt it is the Kurds. Wonder who the mole is in the State Dept that gives away confidential cables. The Kurds need to root out these Saddam-era thugs, and we need to root out the State Dept. rats. |
| Posted by: Alaska Paul 2005-06-15 02:56 |