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Iraq-Jordan
Marines detain 16 U.S. contractors in Falluja
2005-06-09
BAGHDAD (Reuters) - U.S. forces detained 16 American private security contractors and three Iraqis late last month after they opened fire on civilians and U.S. Marines in Falluja, the U.S. military said on Thursday. The 19, employed by U.S. company Zapata Engineering, were held after two shooting incidents in the space of three hours in the city west of Baghdad. No one was hurt in the shootings. The men were released after three days in detention.
"At approximately 2 p.m. on May 28, Marines of Regimental Combat Team 8 in Falluja reported receiving small arms fire from gunman in several late-model trucks and sport utility vehicles," the U.S. military said in a statement. "Marines also witnessed passengers in the vehicles firing at and near civilian cars on the street. "Three hours later, another Marine observation post was fired on by gunman from vehicles matching the description of those involved in the earlier attack. Marines saw passengers in the vehicles firing out the windows," the statement said.
The vehicles were stopped when spiked strips were thrown across the road. The 19 men were taken into custody at a U.S. military camp on the outskirts of Falluja. The statement gave no explanation for why the men might have opened fire on the Marine observation posts and the civilian vehicles.
Stupidity comes to mind. So does alcohol
Zapata Engineering, a small firm based in Charlotte, North Carolina, employs a handful of people in Iraq, where it has a contract to dispose of unexploded ordnance. The company was not immediately reachable for comment. The contractors' weapons and vehicles were impounded as part of an investigation by the U.S. Naval Criminal Investigative Service, which oversees the Marines.
Posted by:Steve

#6  Given that I have been a contractor - and know some who still are, I do not believe the Marines for a moment, unless somehow these were completely stupid guys. 1) You dont get that drunk in the ville on duty - nto drunk enough to fire at marines or US troops. 2) the Jars are on hairtrigger over there.

These guys probably were firing warning shots as they claimed, and the Jars thought they were firing at them. They then put out an alert, and were abusive as hell to the guys once they took them prisoner.

Look for Marines to be disciplined for abuse on this one unless the Iraqi government can sweep it under the rug for the Marines.
Posted by: OldSpook   2005-06-09 23:43  

#5  Nip it! Nip it! Nip it!
Posted by: Corporal Fife   2005-06-09 15:08  

#4  PS. I can only imagine that they are alive and well because the Marines were overcome with curiosity about what the shit was these guys were smoking, and if they had anymore more left.
Posted by: Jimbo19   2005-06-09 14:12  

#3  Hmm well from my stay in Mosul, most third party security companies were either ex US military, or what looked liek phillipno or thai. anyway all the thrid party security guys seemed very professional, and not the kind who relax when on the road.

Now firing on a Marine outpost? I would have to say that these guys got hold of more then just some beer. These guys had to be stumbling drunk or stoned, I bet on both.
Posted by: Jimbo19   2005-06-09 14:10  

#2  I know Marines are famous for their discipline, but these guys are lucky they weren't just blown to hell.
Posted by: Legolas   2005-06-09 11:13  

#1  I've been wondering how long it would take for an incident like this to pop up. Given the generally lawless nature of Iraq and the lack of a chain-of-command enforcing discipline and regulations these contractors really don't have responsibility to anyone other than their client.
Posted by: Dar   2005-06-09 11:01  

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