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Biden: Shut down Guantanamo
2005-06-06
A leading Senate Democrat has said the United States needs to move toward shutting down the military prison camp at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba. "This has become the greatest propaganda tool that exists for recruiting of terrorists around the world. And it is unnecessary to be in that position," said Senator Joseph Biden, a Delaware Democrat. Biden, the top Democrat on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, proposed that an independent commission take a look at Guantanamo and make recommendations. "But the end result is, I think we should end up shutting it down, moving those prisoners," he told ABC's "This Week" television programme.

A Pentagon report released Friday detailed incidents in which US guards at Guantanamo desecrated the Quran. Last month, Amnesty International called the detention center for alleged terrorists "the gulag of our time," ...
... thus providing the Dems with a little political cover for stunts like what Joe is doing now ...
... a charge Defence Secretary Donald Rumsfeld dismissed as "reprehensible". The chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee, Republican Senator Arlen Specter of Pennsylvania, plans hearings this month on the treatment of foreign terrorism suspects at the prison camp.
Posted by:Fred

#26  There are lots of sharks off of GitMo. The detainees would make great shark and marlin bait...
Posted by: 3dc   2005-06-06 23:06  

#25  Damn! I just posted this as I didn't spot it first. Oh, well.

I just get all tingly when I see him on the Sunday shows 'cause he is such a slimeball. And to see folks like Russert just get all gushy amazes me. He is so gelatinous.
Posted by: Brett   2005-06-06 20:36  

#24  All I am saying is that it's passed time for Frist to cowboy up and go after the left over judicial nominations.
Posted by: badanov   2005-06-06 20:01  

#23  at least Delaware has Dover, the Monster Mile....so they've got that going....otherwise, jeez
Posted by: Frank G   2005-06-06 19:53  

#22  Maybe we can use an abandoned AMTRAK station in Delaware to house them, hey Joe?
Posted by: eLarson   2005-06-06 18:57  

#21  I've always thought that Joe had that plug job put in a little too tight...
Posted by: tu3031   2005-06-06 16:47  

#20  No Senator Biden, its ***YOU***, the treasonist MEDIA, and your leftish supports (AI) who are the greatest propaganda tool that exists for recruting terrorists.

You would to anything to 'get Bush' -- even treason.
Posted by: CrazyFool   2005-06-06 16:45  

#19  Bad, he's my Senator and I have repeatedly let his office know how I feel about his knuckling under. Support for the Republicans is dwindling here especially with the Democrats who jumped ship and voted for Bush. I can't believe I'm the only one pushing for action.
Posted by: Deacon Blues   2005-06-06 16:13  

#18  In 2001 I said, okay,let them play their games on judicial nominations.

In 2003 I said, okay, this is getting ridiculous, but I can see how the numbers are stacked against the right. We'll just have to win in 2004 and get those nominees through.

In 2004 I said, no sweat. Bush gets in with a bare majority, and the nominees can go through.

Now, in 2005, movement on a FOUR YEAR OLD nomination finally came to pass with the proviso that the senate not follow the constitution.

This has been going on for four solid years; unrelenting posturing by the left which has been losing steadily during that time, set against the right's insistance that we knuckle under.

If Frist expects to pull a hat trick in 2006, he'd better sh*t a way to undo this nominations games the left has been playing before things getting really serious with a SCOTUS nominee and they spin out of his control.

The right controls the agenda, or they should but what I see so far is capitulation on issues that we have clearly won on.

Does Frist really think folks like me are going to stand around and be called Nazis or facsists just becasue we want the Senate to do its f*cking work for two more years?

I play games. I play wargames. I understand strategy and I understand tactics. If Frist thinks he is going to draw the left into another rout in 2006, he best be thinking about conservatives staying home in 2006 and putting a pretty little dent in his plans to help the left defer more judicial as well as non-judicial nominiations over the next two years.

Frankly, I don't care about 2006 if we don't get to cash in some of our winnings from the 2004 election at least for judicial nominations.
Posted by: badanov   2005-06-06 13:22  

#17  Aw, you guys just don't understand!

The bad guys are using Gitmo as a propaganda tool, so we goota shut it down! Simple message!

Since Joe is delivering the message, that make him ... ummm ... a tool of the terrorist recruiters. QED!
Posted by: Bobby   2005-06-06 12:32  

#16  I think we should shut down the prison at Guantanamo, too.

Shoot all the illegal combatants held there - in accordance with the Geneva Conventions - then drench their bodies in lard, cremate them, and dump their ashes in the middle of the Atlantic.

Then make it our policy - again in accordance with the Geneva Conventions - to kill every illegal combatant we come across.

There, Joe - problem solved. Don't you feel better?
Posted by: Barbara Skolaut   2005-06-06 11:56  

#15  "Shut up, Joe. Go plagarize something, why don't ya?"

Seems I heard this several days before Joe piled on. Can anyone point out any original idea this guy has ever had? I can't think of one.
Posted by: Xbalanke   2005-06-06 11:47  

#14  The chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee, Republican Senator Arlen Specter of Pennsylvania,

Freakin' RINO's gonna play ball with Biden? Jeez, I really wish Toomey had won last year's primary...
Posted by: Raj   2005-06-06 11:26  

#13  When they lead, the Norks get the bomb. When they follow, they're pesky back-seat drivers. I'll take trhe latter.
Posted by: Tom   2005-06-06 11:10  

#12  "Why is the left acting like they are in a position to make these demands?"
Because that's what they do for a living. Try to chill, Badanov -- Biden and company are just singing their same old worn-out tunes. I just got out of the car from listening to some "journalist" on NPR lamenting once again that the Bush administration didn't do enough Iraq reconstruction pre-planning before starting the war. Same old worn-out tunes.
Posted by: Tom   2005-06-06 11:07  

#11  So, why is the left acting like they won?

Ask that question of the Republican "leadership". I'd like to know the answer myself.
Posted by: Bomb-a-rama   2005-06-06 10:23  

#10  We won in 2004, didn't we? I mean, conservatives won handily in the elections of 2004. We WON, right? Someone tell me I am right.

So, why is the left acting like they won? Why is the left acting like they are in a position to make these demands? Someone help me out here.
Posted by: badanov   2005-06-06 08:08  

#9  .com, you think he could get together with Qazi?
Posted by: Phil Fraering   2005-06-06 06:07  

#8  ima gotta lern to speek with clench teef sumday.

It's a northern WASP thing, Mucky.
Posted by: wasp spray   2005-06-06 06:01  

#7  Yikes .com, from the way his (and, "yes, he is a man", to borrow from a better, lol) hair is glowing in your pic, the Israeli *Fish ray* may be currently targeted at him ...
Posted by: Beau   2005-06-06 01:43  

#6  Delaware, Proud Home of Chia Biden.
Posted by: .com   2005-06-06 01:32  

#5  I have an old HS classmate who lives in Deleware. They kind of view Biden as a piece of old furniture. Stuffing coming out - broken springs, but they don't have the heart to rid themselves of him because they are so used to him being there. Remember, he was elected at age 29, but became eligible because his birthday was in December of the year he was elected. He has been ther ever since 33 years...
Posted by: BigEd   2005-06-06 01:17  

#4  ima gotta lern to speek with clench teef sumday.
Posted by: muck4doo   2005-06-06 01:12  

#3  The world's most prominent leftists newspaper suggested it first. But I have a better idea: shut down the New York Times.
Posted by: someone   2005-06-06 00:55  

#2  The sad thing is, the practice that I'm beginning to think is both morally and practically dubious, "renditions" to foreign governments for interrogation, would probably vastly increace if Guantanamo were done away with.

Q: If WW2 were being fought today, would it be legally possible to have POW camps on the American mainland, or would the current state of lawfare mean everyone would wind up suing in the "If the glove don't fit you must acquit" justice system?
Posted by: Phil Fraering   2005-06-06 00:25  

#1  Shut up, Joe. Go plagarize something, why don't ya?

Or how about this?: Shoot Gitmo's big fish, put the little fish in a leaky boat and point 'em east.

"Don't come back."
Posted by: mojo   2005-06-06 00:20  

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