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Home Front: Tech
Vigilante hackers use Old West tactics for cyberspace justice
2005-05-26
Angered by the growing number of Internet scams, online "vigilantes" have started to take justice into their own hands by hacking into suspected fraud sites and defacing them.
Bravo! Where can I donate?
These hackers have targeted fake websites set up to resemble the sites of banks or financial institutions in recent weeks, and have inserted new pages or messages. Some say "Warning - This was a Scam Site," or "This Bank Was Fraudulent and Is Now Removed." The efforts by the self-proclaimed "hero hackers" come amid a surge in online schemes known as "phishing" in which victims are lured to fake websites to get passwords or other personal data.
I get daily messages from "Paypal" wanting me to "verify my account." I get similar messages from eBay, where I don't have an account, and from numerous banks where I don't have accounts. I usually get three to four messages from the mail admins at qrmapps.com and rantburg.com — which would be me — telling me my email is being shut down if I don't "run the attached." And Rantburg's FTP port gets hammered daily by "pgpuser"'s. I am all for doing terrible things to their sites, to include siccing Zarqawi on them...
The British security firm Netcraft was among the first to pick up the hacking activity, discovering hacked sites that were set up to steal passwords from customers of the US Web payment site Paypal and NatWest Bank in Britain. "While phishing is undoubtedly an illegal activity, the legality of defacing phishing sites is also quite questionable, but in cases observed by Netcraft so far it is reasonable to assume that only the fraudsters themselves have been disadvantaged," the security firm said.
Is it against the law to stop a crime in progress?
Some of the hackers are boastful. "We only deface fake banks. Nothing else. Our targets are illegals and hosts that don't take down illegal sites," said a message posted on the website SecurityFocus by the purported "white-hat" British hacker group called The Lad Wrecking Crew.
Bravo, Lads!
Another anonymous group supposedly involved in the hacking described the efforts a public service. "They skulk around the internet like cockroaches stealing, cheating, lying and thieving. They will steal from anyone, they have no morals, they use stolen credit cards, they make false claims for asylum and benefits, they want anything they can get for free," the message said. "Law enforcement cannot be bothered with them -- but we can!"
To me, that's a productive and useful hobby that builds skills that will take the Lads far in this world...
But while the defacements have undoubtedly halted a number of fraud schemes, security experts are dubious about the methods.
"Oh, I'm not sure..."
"Then how the hell'd you get to be an expert?"
"Are the ends good? Undoubtedly. Are the means justified? I don't know," said Cory Altheide of the SANS Internet Storm Center, a consortium of academic and industry security experts.
That must be the "academic" influence talking. Either that, or he never gets any email...
"All I really know is the stories of vigilantism ending well are few and far between."
So shut up and cheer.
Posted by:muck4doo

#15  Dirty job , but someone gotta do it .

On a side note , good conversion to php Fred . Makes site management so much easier Imho.
Posted by: MacNails   2005-05-26 18:50  

#14  duz anyone heer have speriense with squakbox?
Posted by: muck4doo   2005-05-26 16:47  

#13  Best thing is they won't go to jail because the Phishers won't report them and the authorities won't do anything without someone willing to press charges. This is how the DOS attackers blackmail so many sites. Because so many appease the blackmailers by paying them off rather than risking an attack and the cops can't do anything about it.
Posted by: rjschwarz   2005-05-26 15:03  

#12  Any of these guys go to court they can ask for donations for bail/legal expenses and become millionaires with the flood of donation money.
Posted by: rjschwarz   2005-05-26 15:02  

#11  Can I watch? I have no room in my heart for these phishing and spamming criminals if the white hats want to take them down, good on them.
Posted by: Sock Puppet 0’ Doom   2005-05-26 13:17  

#10  If any of these guys get hauled into court - which I doubt - that might be a good defense.

Particularly if the judge just got phished or spammed.


Especially right before trial ;o)
Posted by: badanov   2005-05-26 12:37  

#9  I believe - at least in this country - that you're allowed to commit a small crime to stop a greater crime.

If any of these guys get hauled into court - which I doubt - that might be a good defense.

Particularly if the judge just got phished or spammed.
Posted by: Barbara Skolaut   2005-05-26 12:16  

#8  tryin to putn together em malware blog. gotta werk it moren ima get home
Posted by: muck4doo   2005-05-26 11:38  

#7  Online Poker dropped 40 comments inviting us to go to his site and give him money play the other night. As it happened, none was tied to an article so nobody saw them except me, when I was doing my routine maintenance.
Posted by: Fred   2005-05-26 11:24  

#6  Myself, I'd settle for a brisk flogging of the trackback comment spammer who keeps trying to advertise certain card games and sexual perversions for free on my website.
Yoo-hoo, Lads... over here! The numbskull with the trackback spam! It'd be a public service!
Posted by: Sgt. Mom   2005-05-26 11:21  

#5  That must be the "academic" influence talking.

It sounds more like the CYA influence talking. "Oh, we really wouldn't care to discuss the ethics of taking down the websites of the scum-sucking, father-raping, kiddie-diddling rat bastards. They're all tight with trial lawyers."
Posted by: Angie Schultz   2005-05-26 10:54  

#4  Lads! Lads! Lads!
Posted by: Seafarious   2005-05-26 10:43  

#3  God bless em I say. If they could gather info on the perps and forward it to law enforcement more better. When caught and convicted I'd be inclined to impose a modified sharia sentencing procedure for perps entailing the crushing of digits based upon damage inflicted upon people.
Posted by: Tkat   2005-05-26 10:20  

#2  I applaud these efforts. What I'd like to do is see everyone who gets a spam or phishing email be allowed one free punch at the jerks who send this stuff out. Send out 1 million emails? Then you get 1 million people who each get one punch at your head!
Posted by: Dar   2005-05-26 10:19  

#1  Long live the Lads!
Posted by: Gir   2005-05-26 10:04  

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