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| Dean on Meet the Press: Osama had nothing to do with 9/11 |
| 2005-05-22 |
| This excerpt flagged by the Brothers Judd; full transcript available here. Tim Russert was pressing Gov. Dean on why he was so famously willing to extend the presumption of innocence to Osama bin Laden, and not to Rep. Tom DeLay, when Dean uttered this gem of a statement: Dr. Dean: [T]he thing that really bothered me the most, which the 9-11 Commission said also wasn't true, is the insinuation that the president continues to make to this day that Osama bin Laden had something to do with supporting terrorists that attacked the United States. That is false. The 9-11 Commission, chaired by a Republican, said it was false. Is it wrong to send people to war without telling them the truth. To borrow a line from James Lileks: SWEET SMOKING JESUS, WHAT IS THE MATTER WITH THIS GUY? Does Dean really believe that Osama wasn't behind 9/11? That the 9/11 Commission report cleared him? That the airplanes were flown by remote control, and there was no Boeing at the Pentagon, and 4,00 Jews were told not to go to work that day, and so on? Is that now the official position of the DNC? The DNC's e-mail contact form is here. If you choose to tell them what you think, remember to be civil and polite--but don't pull your punches, either. |
| Posted by:Mike |
| #32 The DNC's e-mail contact form is here. If you choose to tell them what you think,.. Why? |
| Posted by: Bomb-a-rama 2005-05-22 23:30 |
| #31 Physician heal thyself - up the meds. |
| Posted by: DMFD 2005-05-22 23:02 |
| #30 Yep. Methinks the Doc might not last the year with the DNC. |
| Posted by: Pappy 2005-05-22 22:12 |
| #29 Howard Dean denyig Bin Laden is behind Al Qaueda and 9/11? And infront of a national audience, and on tape? Eeeeeexcelent... |
| Posted by: Mr Montgomery Burns 2005-05-22 20:25 |
| #28 Note: Number 26 was in reply to Mrs. Davis. |
| Posted by: Phil Fraering 2005-05-22 19:55 |
| #27 Phil_b: I was under the impression that Schizophrenia was one of the classic adolescent-onset affective disorders. Wouldn't Dean have to have the onset of his symptoms delayed until after he completed medical school in order to have had a chance to complete medical school? |
| Posted by: Phil Fraering 2005-05-22 19:55 |
| #26 Not in the "all politicians are the same" sense. IMHO, that's just another way of letting Dean off the hook for being depraved. |
| Posted by: Phil Fraering 2005-05-22 19:52 |
| #25 Schizophrenia is a good example. Diagnosis rates vary widely between countries, sexes, racial groups and from year to year. Some differences are positively weird. Apparently French psychiatrists don't (or at least didnt at the time of this study) diagnose schizophrenia past the age of 45 years. So there you have it there are no crazy old French men (or women). |
| Posted by: phil_b 2005-05-22 19:42 |
| #24 Phil, Are you implying they are politicians. |
| Posted by: Mrs. Davis 2005-05-22 19:39 |
| #23 I would like to respectfully disagree with Fred. I just looked at the transcript, and Dean was asked about Osama. Here's what Tim Russert asked:
Dean takes off from there... and if Dean's first response when hearing about Osama bin Laden is to start thinking about Saddam, because the Democrat Holy Writ is that the Iraqi invasion was only about a personalized conflict between Bush and Saddam, it still says something rather unpleasant about Dean. And it says something unpleasant about whatever remaining "sane" Democrats (Lieberman, the "new, improved, conservative" And it's about time we stopped giving them the benefit of the doubt in a moral sense by saying they're either stupid or crazy. | |
| Posted by: Phil Fraering 2005-05-22 19:11 |
| #22 Oh baby! Flattery will get you everywhere! Lol! |
| Posted by: .com 2005-05-22 18:08 |
| #21 Nah, .com, I meant you. Don't know why I got the wrong number. (Perhaps I was overcome with your great wit? Yeah, that's the ticket! ;-p) |
| Posted by: Barbara Skolaut 2005-05-22 18:08 |
| #20 ROFL! [piggyback lameness, lol! I love swarming, heh.] 3dc - Lol! Y'know, I truly am sorry - they deserve better, lol! Dave D. - No - now I gotta go find out more, lol! BTW, #2 - #8 (I only have 8. 10 is for compulsives, heh) on my list are: 2) Keep your word or keep your mouth shut. 3) Be an asset - or be gone. 4) You can't savor the flavor if you swallow it hook, line, and sinker. 5) If you have more friends than fingers you've miscounted one - or the other. 6) Keep no emotional accounts. Solve conflicts on the spot. 7) Show yourself. If you take real hits from a respected source, reevaluate yourself - and the respected source thingy. 8) BBQ is good for the soul. Cull the herd for sacred cows every chance you get. Barbara - That was bad, not me! Now I'm really jealous! [/piggyback lameness, lol! I love swarming, heh.] |
| Posted by: .com 2005-05-22 17:45 |
| #19 ROFL, #11 .com. I think I'm in love. :-D Ummm, Mike - about that contact form. Why exactly would I want the DhimmicRats to shut Deano up? Au contraire.* I want him to keep talking, as often, as publicly and on the record as possible. *No Phroggies were harmed in the writing of this comment. Sorry. |
| Posted by: Barbara Skolaut 2005-05-22 17:22 |
| #18 "Never buy your own bullshit." Did you read John D. MacDonald's books, too? Purt' near everything in life I learned that was worth learning, I learned from Travis McGee (and his sidekick Meyer, of course).** **- Except for "if it floats, flies, or f--ks, it's usually cheaper to rent," which I learned from a friend's small-plane mechanic... |
| Posted by: Dave D. 2005-05-22 17:20 |
| #17 schizophrenia - ".com" don't insult the schizos! The wife's clients are nuts but I have never ever heard one of them suggest that Osama didn't do 9-11. |
| Posted by: 3dc 2005-05-22 17:12 |
| #16 Brother Dave - Lol - I think Dean's the real deal, heh. I believe the answers are Yes and Yes. I have a bunch o' rules I employ to regulate my own behavior (read: stay out of jail, lol) and #1 on the list is: Never buy your own bullshit. Dean's a goner, lol! |
| Posted by: .com 2005-05-22 17:01 |
| #15 Lol, phil_b. Let me quibble a bit... That's it? That's like saying "except they can write prescriptions"... Hell, I'm no fan of the shrinks, psychology seems at least as able - no make that better - in treating behavioral problems. But they are M.D's, some would say that's a fairly rigorous process to complete, and the place where they can help society is in treating those with what Kurt Vonnegut so quaintly referred to as "Bad chemicals" in Breakfast of Champions. Dr Steve should weigh in here, since he's an M.D., but I wouldn't be completely dismissive of Psychiatrists, I'd just make endless fun of them, heh. I'm thinking lifespan lithium regimes for all Moonbats would be a good thing - and the Psychologists can't help us with that. But I wouldn't pay $150 an hour to sack out on anyone's couch. ;-) |
| Posted by: .com 2005-05-22 16:57 |
| #14 I always wonder: do people like Dean actually believe the bullshit they spew out? Or do they spew it out thinking their average rank-and-file Democrats are stupid enough to swallow it? |
| Posted by: Dave D. 2005-05-22 16:46 |
| #13 Matt, I trained as a psychologist and I can tell you despite the terminology and classifications they use, the average psychiatrist is no better than a similarly intelligent observer in identifying personality and socialization disorders. |
| Posted by: phil_b 2005-05-22 16:38 |
| #12 Matt - :) I guess the meds (read: soma) prescribed by the bastards in the MSM have finally worn off, heh. This is the real me, lol! |
| Posted by: .com 2005-05-22 16:13 |
| #11 Dean should follow the sage advice of the Hon. Senator Blutarsky "Start drinking very heavily." |
| Posted by: badanov 2005-05-22 16:03 |
| #10 LOL, Doctor .com |
| Posted by: Matt 2005-05-22 16:01 |
| #9 Matt, heh. I added Psychiatry to my Expert on All Things degree program when I attended the ITT Institute of Truckdriving and International Diplomacy. It was only another 3 hours of classroom time - and they gave me a package deal. As a bonus, it was a special offer they were running, the shrink course also qualified me in Electronics (Shock Therapy) and Pharmacology (Rx Meds, focus on lithium-based treatment regimes). The whole LLL, selected-not-elected, BDS / PEST thingy was taking off and I considered opening a boutique practice - in either Florida or Fornicalia, of course. Just trying to do my part to heal America, y'know? Dianne Sawyer taught me deep humility, anguished angst, furrowed-brow sympathy, and dripping sincerity - it shows, no? I just needed to fill in that pesky technical stuff. The Doctor is IN. |
| Posted by: .com 2005-05-22 15:57 |
| #8 I didn't know you had medical training, .com Angie: he obviously meant Saddam, but why be fair? If Bush had made a similar error we'd hear about it for-freaking-ever. |
| Posted by: Matt 2005-05-22 15:42 |
| #7 Dean makes an excellent poster child for full-blown schizophrenia. He also makes the case that the Dhimmidonk party leadership, and we shouldn't exclude all of their advisers, funding sources, and various helpers - might hurt their feelings, are equally insane. If his dementia wasn't so helpful to the anti-idiotarians, I'd suggest the Dhimmidonk crowd should be charged with serious abuse of a mentally ill person - and there can be little doubt that he is wildly unbalanced and exhibiting a remarkable range of personality disorders - and I'm deadly serious here. This man is, to put it in scientific terms, waaay fucked up. |
| Posted by: .com 2005-05-22 15:39 |
| #6 Tim Russert was pressing Gov. Dean on why he was so famously willing to extend the presumption of innocence to Osama bin Laden, and not to Rep. Tom DeLay... Ahem. No. Russert did indeed ask Dean that, and he made some reply, but the Osama remark came in the context of some Dean babbling on the subject of whether he hated Republicans. Dean says:
It's clear, I think, that he did mean Saddam. But he also goes on to name Osama once more in that paragraph, and then start gibbering about mercury. Further down, we get:
Drat that Bush! Practicing nuance after we said he was incapable of it! Is there no end to the man's perfidy? |
| Posted by: Angie Schultz 2005-05-22 15:39 |
| #5 Mike, thanks, but I want this guy to be The Spokesman for the Democratic Party. Keep talking Dean-o. |
| Posted by: Matt 2005-05-22 15:27 |
| #4 Dean = GOP operative secret Rove plant |
| Posted by: macofromoc 2005-05-22 15:05 |
| #3 Unbelievable. Simply unbelievable. What a complete, utter shithead. |
| Posted by: Dave D. 2005-05-22 15:01 |
| #2 I assume that Professor Dumschitz mispoke and meant that Sammy didn't have anything to do with 9-11. That's the usual Dummycrat line, ignoring the fact that Bush has never said he did. |
| Posted by: Fred 2005-05-22 14:55 |
| #1 Dean..the secret weapon! |
| Posted by: Spotch Shosh9165 2005-05-22 14:54 |
