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Breaking News! Another Quran in the Toilet!
2005-05-21
Hat tip: LGF

Student reports Quran in campus toilet
No suspects or leads in incident at Delta College
Is the FBI on the case?
By Greg Kane
Record Staff Writer
Published Friday, May 20, 2005
STOCKTON -- A San Joaquin Delta College student discovered a copy of the Quran in a library toilet Wednesday evening, an incident similar to one described in a now-retracted news report that sparked Muslim protests worldwide last week.
"Protests" in which a couple of dozen people were killed, you asshat, and a lot more would have been if there had been any unarmed Americans around.
Gee. Golly corn. Shucks. Darn. Another Koran in the Toiders story already? And on a college campus, too? Who'da ever thunkit? Not that I expect the person who found it was a Moose limb, of course — or the immediate previous occupant of the stall, anyway. Dare I predict an impending rash of floating Korans in the immediate future?
Delta police wouldn't release the name of the student, whom they say found the Muslim holy book in the toilet of a second-floor men's bathroom in the library just after 7 p.m. Wednesday. Sgt. Geff Greenwood said the student removed the book from the toilet and placed it on a bathroom shelf before contacting the police. The scenario mirrors one described in a retracted Newsweek article that led to deadly riots in Afghanistan and protests in other Muslim nations last week. That Newsweek article, citing unidentified sources, claimed interrogators at Guantanamo Bay had flushed a Quran down a toilet to intimidate detainees.
Reeeeaaaalllllly? Ain't that an amazing coincidence!
The Quran is the most revered book in Islam. Desecrating it is seen as an offense to Allah.
If this had been a Bible, even one belonging to the library, Kane and the other campus dhimmis would be bending over forwards to justify it as "free speech."
Word of the discovery spread quickly across the Delta campus Thursday morning. Muslim students said they were more disappointed than angry to learn that someone at school had desecrated the book.
"We are very disappointed to learn that someone has not taken the message of the Zarqawi videos to heart and is still willing to defy the ummah."
"We have respect for all other religions," said Ramsey Abboushi, a 19-year-old Muslim student. "We can only hope to get that same respect."
Four words, Ramsey, "Church of the Nativity"
Sean Khan, 19, is Muslim but doesn't seriously practice the religion. He still found it upsetting that someone chose to mock another's beliefs in such a way.
Sure that's not Sean Khannery, slated to take over the role of a now-converted Achmed Bond?
"If it was any religious materials, I'd be equally offended," Khan said. "It's just ignorant."
Dat's right. It's just ignernt!
Wade Heath, an 18-year-old Christian student, said Delta is a culturally diverse campus and was surprised to learn about the discovery early Thursday. Heath is a kufr slave Lutheran but understands why Muslims would be upset by the incident. "If it was the Bible flushed down the toilet, I'd be angry," Heath said. "It's a total disrespect to somebody's beliefs."
Cringe!
Another Muslim student, Ahmed Falol, 19, said he thought it was probably a copycat of the Newsweek incident.
There isn't much that gets past ol' Ahmed, is there?
Greenwood said they would still likely pursue thought crimehate-crime charges if the person responsible is found.
WTF? Read that again, people. The Kampus Kops are treating this as an actual crime, made the worse by the nature of the material.
Police have no suspects or leads. The book came from the library and is being held as evidence. Remaining copies of the Quran have been placed behind the library desk to prevent it from happening again, Greenwood said.
I suspect a hoax, a false-flag operation, as we so often see in these "hate-crimes" incidents.
Holmes! How do you do it?
Abboushi said he doubts the person will ever be found. "There are 20,000 kids that go to this school," Abboushi said. "They're not going to stop everyone and ask if they desecrated the Quran."
Er, Ramsey, asking is not the usual way police go about solving a crime, even a non-existent one.
Contact reporter Greg Kane at (209) 546-8276 or gkane@recordnet.com
Posted by:Atomic Conspiracy

#41  Seriously, shouldn't clogging a public toilet be some sort of federal crime? Democrats in the Senate should drop their futile anti-Bolton efforts and tackle this public plumbing outrage. Kennedy, Byrd, Kerry, Pelosi, and Clinton and all so full of crap that this should be a major issue for them.
Posted by: Tom   2005-05-21 21:19  

#40  Priceless! Computer files are cheap, quickly disposed of, and environmentally friendly. Anybody got a Cray handy?
Posted by: Tom   2005-05-21 21:11  

#39  Badanov, in our age of technology... how about a website, that has a PDF of koran (for the sake of tangibility), represented by an icon, plus a flash image of a toilet (/dev/null = bit bucket). You drag and drop, and hear the flushing sound. It is scalable, does not impact environment and clog pipes. A counter to provide real-time stats...

Posted by: twobyfour   2005-05-21 20:26  

#38  Damn it man, can't we end this crisis! How many toilets do you know of that will accept a book?

Let's end this lunacy before someone falls for it and cites it in a Newsweek column.
Posted by: Captain America   2005-05-21 20:07  

#37  Badanov, 15 per day... 1.2 billion m-limbs...
80 million days. We need to come up with a better idea. ;-)


That's if I did just one per day. If I did ten per hour 24 hours per day ( this is a business ) and sold just ten franchises, that would be about 7 million dead Muslims per year.

I can see it now:

"You Deserve a Break today, at Koran-a-crapathon."
Posted by: badanov   2005-05-21 19:52  

#36  The flushable reading material.
Posted by: 3dc   2005-05-21 19:48  

#35  There is a market! Hot Damn!

Koranic toilet paper.
Koranic shoe polish rags.
Koranic Kotex.

Money, money, money....

Posted by: 3dc   2005-05-21 19:47  

#34  Anyone up for a good Koran burning party? I'll buy the gas and beer. Idaho is as good a place as any, maybe better than some. We could start a trend ...
Posted by: Beau   2005-05-21 19:39  

#33  If I'm not mistaken, that's PT Barnum in the pic the moderator inserted into the story. Most appropriate.
Posted by: Atomic Conspiracy   2005-05-21 19:37  

#32  Phil, all attention is not the same.
Kufr-Kane made this news by giving it prominence in a widely read (20,000+) college newspaper. That fact, and his take on it, is worthy of our attention. We don't contribute to this by mocking and rebutting it and especially not by pointing out the obvious agenda behind an ostensible news story. It will not go away if we ignore it.
The Moonbats, as you point out, seek power. Unopposed, and unexposed, they will have it before the rest of us realize that we have lost the option of ignoring them.
Posted by: Atomic Conspiracy   2005-05-21 19:36  

#31  OK, then.

Well, consider this: this news item (along with all the similar ones) has three different functions:

* Propaganda within the west (to leftists and the undecided)

* Propaganda outside the west, to Joe Insurgent, regardless of his ideology

* Jamming. Noise. Chaff. Something to force out real news.

They're going to repeat this item until it eventually loses potential as chaff.
Posted by: Phil Fraering   2005-05-21 19:24  

#30  Phil, The fact that Hizboys may have been involved in Hariri hit is important, but it is but one episode in the WOT.
But... this is not about flushing koran (sbui). It is about behavior, mooselimbs' and moonbats' by proxy. In assymetrical type of warfare, ideas are sometimes as important as bullets. So far, jihadi mooselimbs seem to have an upper hand in manipulative tactics. If we find what makes them tick, we can use it to our advantage, at some point. Not only that, but we maybe able to deflect their attempts to manipulate and turn them around.
Posted by: twobyfour   2005-05-21 19:18  

#29  AC: And by giving this example (and others) such disproportionate attention ourselves, we're enabling the behavior.

Here's what the top of Page 1 looks like as I write this:
Breaking News! Another Quran in the Toilet!2818:31 macofromoc
Hezbollah involved in Hariri hit? 112:56 Frank G


Evidence pops up that Hizbollah was involved in Hariri's assasination, but it's more important for us to discuss another possible Koran-dunking incident?
Posted by: Phil Fraering   2005-05-21 18:59  

#28  This is a great example of permormance art. It's created dialogue and provoked thought. I think the artist/flusher should quickly apply for a grant from the NEA.
Posted by: macofromoc   2005-05-21 18:31  

#27   "it's just another way to manipulate their less powerhungry brethren."

That's a bullseye.

In terms of behavior analysis, taking monstrously disproportionate offense over objectively trivial events is merely a strategy for establishing dominance over others by dictating the minutist aspects of their behavior.
We see this every day from drunks and gang members here in the States.

Power-seeking authoritarianism is the common-thread that runs through the whole Moonbat continuum, from the institutional media and academic fascists to communism, the religious left, and the Religion of Peace itself.
Posted by: Atomic Conspiracy   2005-05-21 18:05  

#26  And they can just tell themselves, "It's not a real Koran, because it's translated into English" if all else fails.
Posted by: Phil Fraering   2005-05-21 17:57  

#25  The problem is, they can literally create new incidents of this type on their own, at will. Korans are readily available, there are restrooms in every public library, and I don't think all of them really care about the Koran as much as they say they do... it's just another way to manipulate their less powerhungry brethren.
Posted by: Phil Fraering   2005-05-21 17:56  

#24  what if its' highest best use is as fiber, Allan wills it so
Posted by: Frank G   2005-05-21 17:56  

#23  Please have mercy on the longsuffering janitors; find some other method of trash disposal.
Posted by: James   2005-05-21 17:54  

#22  Someone must have read the sign:

"Please return books to their proper place."
Posted by: CrazyFool   2005-05-21 17:53  

#21  "And seriously, is it going to be Page 1 News from now on every time there's a report that someone might have desecrated a Koran?"


If CAIR and the multi-cult and their media allies give high-profile coverage to these incidents, in an attempt to portray them as a rash of major hate-crimes; then, yes, that will definitely be something that should be reported and discussed here.
Posted by: Atomic Conspiracy   2005-05-21 17:50  

#20  Finger-in-the-chili-bowl? I'd start with the dude who found it.
Posted by: GK   2005-05-21 17:44  

#19  Sorry 'bout that Phil. I was thinking about our fund-raising project.

I intended to put it on page 2 and made a minor error. It is relevant news because of the extraordinarily excessive reaction from the usual suspects, and the direct connection to the recent riots in Afghanistan and elsewhere.

It is coming here, in its own way, and that is newsworthy.
Posted by: Atomic Conspiracy   2005-05-21 17:43  

#18  Isn't there some group that goes around leaving Bibles in motel rooms? Maybe it's time to start promoting Islam, by leaving Korans in gas station restrooms...
Posted by: Dave D.   2005-05-21 17:40  

#17  Who's Fred F.?

And seriously, is it going to be Page 1 News from now on every time there's a report that someone might have desecrated a Koran?
Posted by: Phil Fraering   2005-05-21 17:37  

#16  Yes, Fred F., 'fraid so.
South Park come to life; as heavy politics, no less.
Posted by: Atomic Conspiracy   2005-05-21 17:29  

#15  AC, 1 million desecrated per day = 80 days! Good thinking!
Posted by: twobyfour   2005-05-21 17:29  

#14  it was me - I ate the Koran and passed it
Posted by: Frank G   2005-05-21 17:29  

#13  Hold on a sec!

Is this supposed to be real news?
Posted by: Phil Fraering   2005-05-21 17:27  

#12  Badanov, 15 per day... 1.2 billion m-limbs...
80 million days. We need to come up with a better idea. ;-)
Posted by: twobyfour   2005-05-21 17:23  

#11  Let it not be said that we are not fair-minded people here at Rantburg.

With the help of volunteers, Fred should immediately begin mass e-mailing the good folk of the ummah to solicit funds to replace the millions of Qurans recently desecrated by bacon-gobbling American infidels.
Posted by: Atomic Conspiracy   2005-05-21 17:21  

#10  I donno about all this.. but I have an inkling to start buying up Korans and pork rinds and ...
Posted by: BrerRabbit   2005-05-21 17:13  

#9  I wish Americans would cease reading holy text on the can. Let's just stick to crossword puzzles or People magazine. It could take someone a very long to to read the Koran in the john, very inconsiderate to others that have to go... bad.

Funny, how a student would discover a desecrated Koran so soon after the riots. It goes without saying that I believe the unidentified student to be moslem and someone versed in the activist methodology of Al Sharpton.
Posted by: Super Hose   2005-05-21 17:12  

#8  Just Moonbats salting the mine.

And yeah, the MSM, very bent complicit whores, will play it like a straight news story and hope it takes off.
Posted by: .com   2005-05-21 17:09  

#7  Seems that there is an idiot contest going on at Delta State. Who is more pathetic, the twit who did this, or Kufr-Kane and the asshats who literally want to make a federal case out of it?
Posted by: Atomic Conspiracy   2005-05-21 17:08  

#6  Ya know... If I thoght that flushing a Koran down the toilet would result in 15 or 20 dead Mulims who are crazy enought to kill one another other this, I would turn it into a business and make sure it gets done AND reported every 10 minutes.
Posted by: badanov   2005-05-21 17:07  

#5  This is an actual, if very minor, crime because the Quran in question belonged to the library and not to the toilet-terrorist who dunked it.

Good dhimmi that he is, though, Kane obscures this point in favor of a ludicrous emphasis on "hate-crimes", as though the desecration were a crime in and of itself (which it obviously is not).

Put another way, I would be really pissed if some protestor or performance-artist exercised his right of free expression (as defined by Moonbats) by pitching my copy of the Quran into the crapper.
I gave 5 bucks for it, after all, at the second-right-hand bookstore. If they want to destroy their own Quran, more power to them.

Would it be a "hate-crime" (as opposed to common-law vandalism) if I pitched the library's copy of Newsweek (Newsleak?) into the toilet?
After all, I really hate Newsweek, and will cheerfully admit it.
Posted by: Atomic Conspiracy   2005-05-21 17:03  

#4  How times change... Yesterday it was Allan (pbuh), now it's Allan (sbuh).
Posted by: twobyfour   2005-05-21 17:02  

#3  Oh and just as a perverse little thought, aint it an amazing coinkinkydinke that it was a muslim student that found the book first before anyone else?
Posted by: Valentine   2005-05-21 16:58  

#2  placed it on a bathroom shelf before contacting the police.

He contacted the police over a book in a toilet?
Posted by: Charles   2005-05-21 16:55  

#1  Bah this is the campus I went to for JC...whats the world coming to.
Posted by: Valentine   2005-05-21 16:55  

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