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| Dying Mullah Writes that Islam was a fraud all along |
| 2005-05-15 |
| An Iranian Mullah Say Islam is Murder Potkin Azarmeher If this letter by the shiite cleric Hadi Ma'ssumi published on the iran-chabar site is true then this is just mega explosive: http://www.iran-chabar.de/1384/02/20/masoomi840220.htm The letter to Rafsanjani is written by a Karaj based cleric. He says in the letter that he is ill and near death, so presumably that is what has given him the extra ordinary courage needed to write this letter. If this letter was from an exiled opposition, it would not have been so controversial but to read this sort of thing from a Shiite cleric is truly remarkable. In the letter, the cleric Hadi Ma'ssumi starts from the beginning of Islam in Iran. How the religion was forced upon Iranians, how the invading Arabs raped the Iranian women, massacred the population, looted our wealth, tried to run the windmills with the blood of Iranians and how they burned all our books and destroyed so much of our knowledge. He then starts scrutinising 26 years of Rafsanjani's unrelentless power. He reminds Rafsanjani of what went on in Iran's political prisons in the 80s. How young virgin girls were raped before their executions using Koranic justifications - virgin girls go to heaven no matter what, so young female political activists were raped to ensure they didn't go to heaven - how thousands suffered torture and the massacre of Iranian political prisoners in 1988.... - ----a quote from the letter follows---- -- "You know like I do what lies behind this religion (Islam), after all this crime carried out against Iranians.... Now for the sake of God tell the truth to the people that there is nothing in this religion but stupidity and ignorance, other than silly laws about what is considered clean and what is untouchable, what is allowed and what is not allowed, believe me that God and the people will then forgive you, although I know you are conscious enough NOT to believe in God!" |
| Posted by:mhw |
| #15 If there was ever any doubt that islam is a stinking pile of excrement that worships the demon allan ...this should end it. |
| Posted by: anymouse 2005-05-15 20:25 |
| #14 I remember some discussion a year or so ago suggesting that when the Mullahs fell islam might seriously fade away in Iran along with it since the Mullahs have given Islam such a black eye. Doubt it's true but after reading this letter, who knows. I think it would be huge to see Iran's Mullahs' overthrown, even bigger to have a wave of Zorostrianism return to Persia. |
| Posted by: RJ Schwarz 2005-05-15 18:05 |
| #13 its in arabic script but the language is farsi translation isn't that important anyway, pieces of the letter will, I think, be circulated within the anti mullarky movement within a week or two -- assuming the letter isn't shown to be a forgery the place to follow this would be at: http://www.activistchat.com/ |
| Posted by: mhw 2005-05-15 16:48 |
| #12 Anonymoose --- it's at the web site in the article -- in Arabic -- Know anyone who can translate? |
| Posted by: Sherry 2005-05-15 16:06 |
| #11 I wonder how many people would leave Islam if it wasn't against the law (punishable by death)? |
| Posted by: CrazyFool 2005-05-15 16:04 |
| #10 Sherry: that was pretty much what was in the original post. Is there a complete version of the letter itself? Not what someone says was said, but what was actually said, other than the one paragraph at the end. I would like to know the rest of the content, as written by the Mullah. |
| Posted by: Anonymoose 2005-05-15 15:56 |
| #9 If they get hit in the face with it enough it will have a effect on their religious thinking. Over time it will work against islam. I wish that country could be flooded with the letter. There are plenty of Persians and Arabs ready to not believe. Islam is coerced on lots of people pretending to practice it. Most places you are not free to ignore it's strictures as they are hard wired into society. In the west religion is less hard wired. |
| Posted by: Sock Puppet 0’ Doom 2005-05-15 15:38 |
| #8 Iblis - what's the downside? ;-p |
| Posted by: Barbara Skolaut 2005-05-15 15:35 |
| #7 11A5S: People tend to get pretty tied up with their religion, especially the poor and uneducated. Much more likely to create a racial backlash against Arabs than a religious backlash against Islam. |
| Posted by: Iblis 2005-05-15 15:30 |
| #6 Cool. If this is really true, he's no longer near death, if you know what I mean.... |
| Posted by: Barbara Skolaut 2005-05-15 15:07 |
| #5 Never understood why _someone_ isn't working the "Islam raped and ruined Iran" angle hard with the Iranian people. I would think that this would strike a resonant cord with a lot of Iranians. After all, Iran was strong nation before the Arabs came -- having stopped the Romans and Byzantinians cold. The Arabs took everything away from them: their alphabet, their culture, their history and their religion. The muslims almost took their language, IIRC. Since the Arab invasion, Iran has been a second-rate power. If this letter is true, it looks like there is already an underground anti-Islamic current out there. It should be brought out into the open. |
| Posted by: 11A5S 2005-05-15 14:17 |
| #4 From The Corner at National Review Online IRANIAN REVELATIONS [Michael Ledeen] I am still in Naples, finishing the research for my book "virgil's golden egg and other neapolitan miracles," but I did want to pass on this remarkable email from one of my iranian penpals. I think it is enormously important, because it shows the depth of the hatred of the regime from a leading Shi'ite mullah, in a degree of detail I think most of us would find amazing. And it also provides very useful information about the official presidential candidate, Rafsanjani, who is often described as a "moderate." Here you go: If this letter by the shiite cleric Hadi Ma'ssumi published on the iran-chabar site is true then this is just mega explosive: http://www.iran-chabar.de/1384/02/20/masoomi840220.htm The letter to Rafsanjani is written by a Karaj based cleric. He says in the letter that he is ill and near death, so presumably that is what has given him the extra ordinary courage needed to write this letter. If this letter was from an exiled opposition, it would not have been so controversial but to read this sort of thing from a Shiite cleric is truly remarkable. In the letter, the cleric Hadi Ma'ssumi starts from the beginning of Islam in Iran. How the religion was forced upon Iranians, how the invading Arabs raped the Iranian women, massacred the population, looted our wealth, tried to run the windmills with the blood of Iranians and how they burned all our books and destroyed so much of our knowledge. He then starts scrutinising 26 years of Rafsanjani's unrelentless power. He reminds Rafsanjani of what went on in Iran's political prisons in the 80s. How young virgin girls were raped before their executions using Koranic justifications - virgin girls go to heaven no matter what, so young female political activists were raped to ensure they didn't go to heaven - how thousands suffered torture and the massacre of Iranian political prisoners in 1988. The many extra-judicial killings of Iranian dissidents both inside Iran and outside Iran. "Ayatollah Rafsnajani, you know how murder, kidnapping and torture has become synonymous with your name" Ma'assumi writes in his letter. Hadi Ma'ssumi asks about Rafsanjani's close relationship with the likes of Saeed Emami, responsible for murder of dissidents inside Iran and Vahid Gorji who is responsible for many assassinations of Iranian exiles outside Iran. Ma'ssumi recalls how Rafsanjani unnecassarily prolonged the war with Iraq, casuing the death and injuries to millions and how he himself hugely profitted from the war instead. Ma'ssumi asks Rafsanjani to comment on the imprisonment of many of Iran's dissidents today. What he thinks of stoning, public flogging, cutting limbs and forcing women to wear the veil. He asks Rafsanjani why women in Iran are forced to wear the veil in summer heat and yet Rafsanjani's daughter Faezeh dresses up in skimpy clothing when she travels through European cities of Paris, London and Geneva. Even perhaps all this is not that controversial, there are after all many Iranian clerics who oppose the Islamic Republic and the rule of mullahs. But just read this below. This is an exact translation of one paragraph of an elderly Shiite cleric's statement on his death bed: "You know like I do what lies behind this religion (Islam), after all this crime carried out against Iranians. lets do one good thing and tell the people what is behind this religion. Lets tell everyonel that this religion is neither "martyr generating", nor pro-science nor pro the people, this religion tells the elite that it is for the plebs and it tells the plebs that it is for the elite, it tells the elite that all its silly laws are for the stupid plebs, in fact this religion is "ignorance generator". It has come about to humiliate people. As you (Rafsanjani) once told me, it is one religion for the elite and another for the plebs. You rightly regard yourself, the supreme leader and your Guardian Council as the elite, and the "martyr generating" nation of Iran are the plebs. Now for the sake of God tell the truth to the people that there is nothing in this religion but stupidity and ignorance, other than silly laws about what is considered clean and what is untouchable, what is allowed and what is not allowed, believe me that God and the people will then forgive you, although I know you are conscious enough NOT to believe in God!" |
| Posted by: Sherry 2005-05-15 13:56 |
| #3 Sounds apocryphal to me... |
| Posted by: Fred 2005-05-15 13:53 |
| #2 It would be extra good to have an exact translation from the entire letter. It would deserve a permalink. |
| Posted by: Anonymoose 2005-05-15 12:51 |
| #1 "we wuz screwed.....rosebud" |
| Posted by: Frank G 2005-05-15 12:45 |