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Titan 'a flammable world'
2005-01-22
Awright! Put 'em out!
THE European robot lab Huygens had found liquid methane on the Saturn satellite Titan, a chemical that seemed to have shaped the moon's peculiar landscape and weather system, scientists said overnight. "We've got a flammable world. It's quite extraordinary," said University of Honolulu researcher Toby Owen, referring to methane's combustibility with air on Earth. "There is liquid on Titan. It has been raining not long ago, there is liquid methane," said Jean-Pierre Lebreton, director of the Huygens mission at the European Space Agency (ESA). "There are truly remarkable processes at work on Titan's surface," he said.

US researcher Marty Tomasko, of the University of Arizona, said the data sent back by Huygens showed "many familiar earthlike processes: abrasion, erosion, precipitation". "On the place where we landed, it had been raining not long ago, maybe two days ago," Mr Tomasko said at a presentation to the press at ESA headquarters in Paris. The rain - not water but liquid methane, which is toxic to humans - causes soil to run down from the hills and forms the rivulets and gullies that were visible in the raw images of Titan, shown to the world last week. Huygens, a 319kg craft fitted with cameras, atmospheric sensors and gas analysers, landed on Titan on January 14, sending back data to a US mothership, Cassini. Titan, the largest satellite of Saturn, was chosen as, intriguingly, it is the only moon in the solar system that has a substantial atmosphere. Its thick mix of nitrogen and methane is suspected to be undergoing chemical reactions similar to those that unfolded on Earth billions of years ago. That process eventually provided the conditions for life on our planet.

The mission, the farthest landing from Earth ever attempted, was "exploration as well as science", said ESA's director of science, David Southwood, who described it as "the most wonderful event in my career". At best, scientists had hoped Huygens would keep transmitting for three brief minutes after hitting Titan's surface. Instead, they said, instruments probably continued to function for at least three hours after the 15km/h touchdown. The only flaw in the mission was the loss of one of two data channels that were used to relay the findings home via Cassini. Instead of 700 images being sent back, only about 350 were received, showing a fog-strewn orange-tinged planet surface. On Thursday, a study published in the British journal Nature reported that Cassini, carrying Huygens, ran into major dust storms as it raced towards its rendezvous with Saturn last year. The microscopic grains smashed into Cassini with an impact speed of more than 100km per second (360,000km/h).
Posted by:God Save The World

#25  "All these worlds are yours except Europa. Attempt no landings there."

Anyone report a large monolith lying on its side deep in the methane ocean there?

(Arthur C Clarke predicting the methane sea on Europa in his followups to 2001 A Space Odessey)
Posted by: OldSpook   2005-01-22 11:19:25 PM  

#24  "All these worlds are yours except Europa. Attempt no landings there."

Anyone report a large monolith lying on its side deep in the methane ocean there?

(Arthur C Clarke predicting the methane sea on Europa in his followups to 2001 A Space Odessey)
Posted by: OldSpook   2005-01-22 11:19:25 PM  

#23  Anyone report a large monolith lying on its side deep in the methane ocean there?

You mean the one making the sound: "EEEEEEEEEEeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeEEEEEEEEee...
eeeeeeEEeeeeeeeeeeeeeeEEEEEEEEEEEEE"?
Posted by: AJackson   2005-01-22 11:27:33 PM  

#22  "All these worlds are yours except Europa. Attempt no landings there."

Anyone report a large monolith lying on its side deep in the methane ocean there?

(Arthur C Clarke predicting the methane sea on Europa in his followups to 2001 A Space Odessey)
Posted by: OldSpook   2005-01-22 11:19:25 PM  

#21  Glenmore is right about the rocks. To me, they resemble glacial moraines more than alluvial deposits, ground to uniform size and smoothness under some sort of solid or semi-solid flow.
Posted by: Atomic Conspiracy   2005-01-22 6:16:44 PM  

#20  Deacon, I must be the only one who got your comment--I loved that book. Heinlein rules!
Posted by: mary   2005-01-22 4:33:53 PM  

#19  Dishman: We don't know if Titan has active tectonics. This is the first look we've gotten at it.
Says here in the CRC that methane is soluble in water. Maybe somebody who knows more chemistry can say if methane ices form at these pressures. Probably some form below the surface, where methane trickles deep underground the way water does here. Hmm. Release pressure==> release gas; methane ice volcanoes? I don't know if we could identify puffs in the atmosphere from volcanoes, but if so then local warm upwellings of gas might be an indicator for tectonic activity.
Posted by: James   2005-01-22 4:19:24 PM  

#18  lo end/high end flammable limits for methane is 5-15% in air. We're lucky that the atmosphere is not ethylene oxide, heh heh. Universe's largest thermobaric bomb.
Posted by: Alaska Paul   2005-01-22 3:35:08 PM  

#17   "Titan is a flammable world." But all the oxygen is trapped in ice. "That's a good thing, or Titan would have exploded a long time ago." . . .


So if we nuked it that would free some oxygen and the planet blows up? KABOOM
Posted by: Bill Nelson   2005-01-22 3:26:25 PM  

#16  Glenmore... IIUC, Earth and Io are the only bodies in the system with active tectonics.
Posted by: Dishman   2005-01-22 2:59:33 PM  

#15  Deacon- If you've got the technology to harvest and ship from Titan in meaningful quantities, there are a lot of other power options available.

Construction materials for solar power satellites have a lot more bang for the buck.

I'm not saying it's a bad question, though.
Posted by: Dishman   2005-01-22 2:53:09 PM  

#14  Curious. The photo is full of rounded rocks, of a couple of distinct size ranges. Must have been rolled around and banged into each other to knock the edges off. High velocity methane rivers into alluvial fans? Must be some mountains nearby then. So what made the mountains? Titanic plate tectonics?
Can't wait to see more. Planetary geology (between this and the Mars Rovers) hasn't had this much new stuff to play with since the moon landings and the Mars Viking mission.
Posted by: Glenmore   2005-01-22 11:43:52 AM  

#13  I thought we weren't supposed to land on Europa. Titan is where the Puppet Masters are from.
Posted by: Deacon Blues   2005-01-22 11:30:20 AM  

#12  Soon to be named the 5,865th holiest place in Islam...the lost colony of al-Titani.
Posted by: Seafarious   2005-01-22 10:53:11 AM  

#11  Hands off Titan!
Posted by: Shipman   2005-01-22 10:25:44 AM  

#10  That's what I was thinking Raptor. I wonder how hard it would be to "harvest" all this stuff to supply heating and other fuel needs fo future space exploration. There are a lot of good building blocks in methane and natural gas.
Posted by: Deacon Blues   2005-01-22 9:42:15 AM  

#9  Yes,but what is Titan's LEL(lower explosive limit),UEL(upper explosive limit).LEL:the lowest ratio of O2/methane that will sustain combustion.
UEL:The point at wich the ratio is to rich to combust
Posted by: Raptor   2005-01-22 8:06:21 AM  

#8  How can this stuff be considered flammable if there's no oxidizer present to react with?

I read his statement to mean that normally, on Earth, this kind of stuff would be flammable (he should have said 'inflammable' but let's not split hairs).
Posted by: Rafael   2005-01-22 2:41:25 AM  

#7  ... and on Titan, the oxygen would burn in much the same way methane burns here..
once it got going, anyway.
Posted by: Dishman   2005-01-22 1:08:41 AM  

#6  It is conceivable that there are processes that would produce free oxygen on Titan, just as there are processes that produce free methane on Earth.
Posted by: Atomic Conspiracy   2005-01-22 12:53:34 AM  

#5  The NewScientist had a somewhat more extensive quote from Owen that makes it sound less nutty:
"It means there's methane near the surface," says Owen, "Titan is a flammable world." But all the oxygen is trapped in ice. "That's a good thing, or Titan would have exploded a long time ago."
Still a silly thing for him to say. . .
Posted by: James   2005-01-22 12:51:25 AM  

#4  Exactly, Phil. To them we would be fire-breathing creatures from a combustible planet where it rained the equivalent of molten lead.
Posted by: Atomic Conspiracy   2005-01-22 12:49:05 AM  

#3  I don't get it.

How can this stuff be considered flammable if there's no oxidizer present to react with?

(I can imagine aliens from Titans describing Earth's atmosphere as highly flammable).
Posted by: Phil Fraering   2005-01-22 12:39:54 AM  

#2  Huygen's designers should have rigged up a cigarette lighter flint to be struck after all planned experiments were done, just to see how flammable the place really is.
Posted by: Bomb-a-rama   2005-01-22 12:31:02 AM  

#1  Yesterday it was alleged by an insider that channel failure was human error.
Posted by: Dishman   2005-01-22 12:15:57 AM  

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