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Home Front: Politix
Bush decries border project as "Vigilantes"
2005-03-24
President Bush yesterday said he opposes a civilian project to monitor illegal aliens crossing the border, characterizing them as "vigilantes."
He said he would pressure Congress to further loosen immigration law.
More than 1,000 people — including 30 pilots and their private planes — have volunteered for the Minuteman Project, beginning next month along the Arizona-Mexico border. Civilians will monitor the movement of illegal aliens for the month of April and report them to the Border Patrol...
Slightly incorrect. Vigilantes are a group that forms to *execute* punishment, not to *assist* law enforcement. Were these real vigilantes, they would be erecting gibbets and hanging illegals from them as an (effective) detterent to others. If this group is brushed aside, the end result might be creation of a real vigilante movement. Would the government commit the resources to arrest vigilantes when it would not do so to arrest illegals? And how many illegals would be turned back just by witnessing an empty noose hanging on a tree branch? Would that be a "hate crime"? What about simple posters that, in Spanish, tell illegals to "go home"?
Posted by:Anonymoose

#19  I suppose the President will also come out against Neighborhood Watch groups, which do exactly the same thing (look for criminals and report them to law enforcement).

This issue might be enough to assure us of President Hillary Clinton.
Posted by: jackal   2005-03-24 11:25:17 PM  

#18  President Bush yesterday said he opposes a civilian project to monitor illegal aliens crossing the border, characterizing them as "vigilantes."
He said he would pressure Congress to further loosen immigration law.


Bad news. GWB needs to respect our laws more than he needs to please Vicente Fox.

Posted by: Bomb-a-rama   2005-03-24 9:28:43 PM  

#17  That's nutz Edward! This Minutemen dress-up and play solider crap is insane.
Posted by: Shipman   2005-03-24 6:30:42 PM  

#16  Well, as long as he doesn't actually DO anything about them, like try to actually stop the Minutemen ... then I'll accept the above as a shell game for the cameras.

If those words're actually meant, we'd have a problem.
Posted by: Edward Yee   2005-03-24 6:01:33 PM  

#15  It was just a guess. Bet I'm wrong, course groveling at TW shitholes... is good troll imagery. 9.45.

Newbie points included.
Posted by: Shipman   2005-03-24 5:29:36 PM  

#14  Sorry. Guess I wasn't aware that criticizing Bush constituted trolling. I just find it absurd that a President who will treat the UN with the disdain it deserves, and who shows utter disinterest for the EU's moralistic BS, absolutely grovels at the feet of a Third World shithole like Mexico.
Posted by: Jeff   2005-03-24 5:13:34 PM  

#13  I wouldn't look for it to change any time soon. Bush has a hard-on for Mexicans that defies reason.

So, joined the 101st AirBorne Troll Militia?
Posted by: Shipman   2005-03-24 4:48:42 PM  

#12  Bush is wrong on this issue. Period.
Posted by: Secret Master   2005-03-24 4:45:24 PM  

#11  Cheap labor is a myth. Anything that is illegal costs more because of the need to compensate for the risks involved. I.e. the US would have cheaper labor by bringing in (temporary) migrants under a work permit system. FWIW Singapore has an extensive and strictly enforced system which is a major source of government revenue.

Otherwise a government should not make laws it cannot or will not enforce.
Posted by: phil_b   2005-03-24 4:13:38 PM  

#10  No mystery why he thinks it's a good idea: cheap labor. Illegals will watch kids and work in landscaping, factories and restaurants for wages few if any legal immigrants or citizens will accept. And to be fair, many of them will work harder at it, too. What price has WalMart or any local day care or restaurant ever paid when they're caught with their hand in the illegal work force cookie jar? If it was as risky as it should be to hire these folks, we wouldn't need citizen patrols or fences at the border.
Posted by: VAMark   2005-03-24 3:26:49 PM  

#9  At one time in Alabama a person could get a permit to mine his property aslong as it was well labeled as such. Don't know if one still can.
Posted by: Deacon Blues   2005-03-24 3:05:09 PM  

#8  I'm for land mines. :-)

"Good minefields make good neighbors."
Posted by: Jeff   2005-03-24 2:50:50 PM  

#7  I'd love for him to explain why he thinks this is such a good idea.
Perhaps he is just pandering to the large illegal population in TX, but for what reason?

Anyhow, IMO he is way off base on this. I'm for an Israeli style wall.
Posted by: JerseyMike   2005-03-24 2:38:56 PM  

#6  I wouldn't look for it to change any time soon. Bush has a hard-on for Mexicans that defies reason.
Posted by: Jeff   2005-03-24 2:37:31 PM  

#5  I can't agree more--If W would encourage the agencies to enforce the damn immigration laws, these civvies wouldn't feel the need to be vigilantes!

This is f'ing brilliant--let's keep the borders wide open while we frisk little old ladies at the airports and confiscate toenail clippers.
Posted by: Dar   2005-03-24 2:27:52 PM  

#4  The laissez faire haphazard enforcement of our laws preventing illegals from pouring into our country erodes the basic contract a citizen has with its government.

In other words, it dilutes the status of citizens.

I admire W and voted for him twice, but in this matter he's out of touch...with me anyhow.
Posted by: R   2005-03-24 2:09:45 PM  

#3  Dang - sucess should be success in my post above. Eating lunch and typing is hard.
Posted by: Yosemite Sam   2005-03-24 1:58:31 PM  

#2  This is one of the only things I seriously disagree with W about. He hasn't given and real reason for letting the illegals in. I just don't get it and I wish sucess for the Minutemen.
Posted by: Yosemite Sam   2005-03-24 1:57:01 PM  

#1  He said he would pressure Congress to further loosen immigration law.

What a douchebag.
Posted by: Jeff   2005-03-24 1:39:44 PM  

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