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Home Front: Culture Wars
Blast from the Past: Scientists Advocate Drastic Measures to Combat Global Cooling
2005-02-22
I found this while I was researching what seems to be a very large volcanic eruption missing from the historical record.
It is becoming more apparent that there must be regulation of any of man's activities which may result in significant climatic change. The earth is in a fairly precarious temperature balance given the present distribution and density of human population and agricultural production. A cooling trend could lead to continental glaciation in the middle latitudes. This tendency could be reversed by the use of carbon dust spread on snow and ice to reduce albedo and induce melting, but this method has been stated by Gates (1970) to be financially unrealistic.

Given the failure of the various national states to prevent the explosion of nuclear weapons, another source of atmospheric pollution, it is doubtful whether these same states will be able to control their present industrial air pollution. For this (and other reasons) the present division of humanity into sovereign states seems a dangerous anachronism. The federation of mankind into a world parliament would be one alternative which would permit the adoption of pollution controls sufficiently stringent to prevent climatic alteration and its social and economic consequences.
Posted by:phil_b

#22  Phil, 1680-1720 was a period of decreased solar activity and occurence of sun spots in larger amount than recorded previously (Little Ice Age). In 1730's, the temperatures have risen to a level of 1990's and the precipitation levels dropped down substantially towards the end of the decade. That may explain the famine in 1739/40.
Posted by: Sobiesky   2005-02-22 11:28:29 PM  

#21  Phil F, in 1740 there was a famine across Europe, some Irish sources suggest it was worse than the Great (Potato) Famine. There was also a great freeze in England. Contemporary accounts say it was so cold that water poured out of a container froze before it hit the ground. It seems to have affected N. America as Florida recorded a snowstorm in that year. This strongly indicates a major volcanic eruption in 1739/40 yet the historical record contains nothing.
Posted by: phil_b   2005-02-22 11:05:55 PM  

#20  It's probably the same physical law that makes my toast fall butter and jelly side down.
Posted by: whitecollar redneck   2005-02-22 9:13:32 PM  

#19  WR - Having lived in the midwest most of my life, I'd say you have the protocol for the post-twister interview nailed. And of course the attraction for tornadoes by trailer parks is well-documented.

I did live in L.A. for a few years though, and what I was wondering is, has anyone ever done a study to determine why earthquake epicenters are always located under liquor stores?
Posted by: Darth VAda   2005-02-22 8:51:32 PM  

#18  Gee, Tijuana's safe... ;p
Posted by: Pappy   2005-02-22 8:36:04 PM  

#17  Tornado warning? Get away from any trailer parks as they act like magnets to twisters. If you're interviewed after the tornado be sure to take your shirt off before the cameras start.
Posted by: whitecollar redneck   2005-02-22 8:23:48 PM  

#16  still raining down south - just got home in Santee (next to El Cajon on your map)....1 hr commute for 20 mile drive - yikes
Posted by: Frank G   2005-02-22 7:02:42 PM  

#15  

If anything happens...will let you know...Don't have digital camera with me...

Close to landing for John Wayne Airport. Seems they may be diverting traffic???

Saw spectacular lighting strike abt 6 mi away...

Temp not issue high 50s F / 15+/- C
Posted by: BigEd   2005-02-22 6:40:07 PM  

#14  Itn always good to see Martin Whiteshoes.
Posted by: Shipman   2005-02-22 6:39:54 PM  

#13  I dunno about you but a tornado watch has been issued until 6:00PM here in the LA Area. Everyone is looking out the windows and looking up...Radar L A

Global Warming - Global Cooling?

I await to say the immortal words of Ray Bolger in the "Wizard of Oz", Itsa Twista Itsa Twista!
Posted by: BigEd   2005-02-22 5:44:09 PM  

#12  Phil_b: Where and when was this unrecorded volcanic eruption you're looking for?
Posted by: Phil Fraering   2005-02-22 4:46:11 PM  

#11  Frank, that would be contrary to the "spirit of cooperation". Your only true option is to scrape lower in your subservience.
Posted by: Dishman   2005-02-22 4:40:37 PM  

#10  just to be contrary I'll write the minority dissent - regardless of what position the majority takes...
Posted by: Frank G   2005-02-22 3:48:54 PM  

#9  Yes Lawrence! Plenty of good microbrewerys around LA. We need a committee to study the fesabilty of a committee to study the record rainfall in Los Angeles!

He he he

Pure bureauctatese!
Posted by: BigEd   2005-02-22 3:43:02 PM  

#8  Dude, I not only need a grant to study this, I think we ALL need a conference to consume beer discuss this important matter. Say... Tahiti?
Posted by: Laurence of the Rats   2005-02-22 3:28:39 PM  

#7  I'm concerned about global (as in: my region) wetting. I need a grant to study it
Posted by: Frank G   2005-02-22 2:54:28 PM  

#6  Well, looking out my office window in Pasadena, California, I see rain & clouds. That might be normal for some, but here in LA it is pretty odd. Granted, individual instances mean nothing, and one year is not a trend, but . . . .
Posted by: Kalchas   2005-02-22 2:52:10 PM  

#5  Global cooling? Get your woolies!
GET YOUR GALOSHES!

Rainfall Los Angeles 2004-2005, through Feb 21 : 32.51 inches,
Normal 9.89,
Yeah teah yeah - You Seattle-ites are laughing at a mere 32 inches. But our ground is saturated. My back-yard has standing water...

Increase 22.62 - 229%
Yikes - Flooding, Tornadoes, and Blizzards Nearby!
No snow in LA yet - Last measured snow in Downtown LA : 1949...

Record (1883-1884) 38.18 inches,
Normal 15.06
Increase 23.12 - 154% for the old record.

Oh Temp was 58 yesterday. Normal 70. But that difference is mostly rain induced...



However RB-ers know Martin, "The Granite Lion", my cat. He sits on the window sill swishes his tail and meows constantly, complaining about the H2O. He is probably saying, "All those mice are drowning. They need to die a more dignified death. Be caught by me!"

Posted by: BigEd   2005-02-22 2:27:12 PM  

#4  When you have an agenda, any theory will do.
Posted by: phil_b   2005-02-22 1:44:36 PM  

#3  If anyone cares to take it further...
It occurs to me that a Solar Shield would run about $15T/K, or substantially less than Kyoto. I don't think it was really looked at, which means that Kyoto was the motive, rather than global warming.
Posted by: Dishman   2005-02-22 1:08:48 PM  

#2  This provides a wonderful perspective on the Tranzi 'solution looking for a problem'.
Posted by: Dishman   2005-02-22 11:05:13 AM  

#1  Hmm, so: 1) The atmospheric explosion of nuclear weapons contributes to global cooling; 2) The eco-nuts believe we're experiencing global warming; and 3) We need to off the regimes in Syria, Iran, & North Korea. Anybody besides me se a win/win/win situation in the making here?
Posted by: AzCat   2005-02-22 9:35:18 AM  

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