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Europe
Dutch doctors 'refusing' to perform euthanasia
2005-02-04
A once-great continent continues its downward spiral. Via BrothersJudd.
A Dutch pro-euthanasia group has launched an investigation into claims that doctors are trying to avoid performing requested euthanasia or are continually delaying carrying out the request.
Members of the medical profession not killing people? Something's obviously wrong here...
The Dutch Voluntary End to Life Association (NVVE) said its large-scale investigation among surviving relatives into unperformed euthanasia requests, will be completed by the end of next year, newspaper De Volkskrant reported. As the NVVE presented a book of interviews with surviving relatives on Thursday, director Rob Jonquiere said many of the interviews indicate that doctors are looking for excuses not to carry out euthanasia. "We want to know how often this occurs," he said.
These guys are reeeeal lucky they don't get to interview me.
Research commissioned by the Dutch government has found that of the 9,700 requests for euthanasia lodged in 2001, only 3,800 were carried out. In one-third of the requests not carried out, doctors said the patient had already died before euthanasia could be performed. In 20 percent of the cases, doctors were not prepared to assist a patient commit suicide because not all the legal requirements had been met.
"Now, if you'll just sign this form, sir... Sir?... Sir?"
"He's been in a coma since last year, doctor!"
The views of patients and relatives were not included in the research for two former studies and it remains unclear if the comments from doctors were correct. Jonquiere said if doctors try and delay euthanasia, they would not be too keen to admit that to researchers.
Come to me, I've got something to admit to you.
The NVVE has asked a social medicine professor with the Free University medical centre in Amsterdam, Gerrit van der Waal to conduct the investigation. Van der Waal has in recent years led two investigations into the euthanasia practices among doctors. Euthanasia has been legal in the Netherlands since April 2002.
It now seems to be mandatory...
The law allows assisted suicides if the patient officially requests to die, is suffering from extreme pain or a terminal illness and a second medical opinion has been sought. The Netherlands was the first nation to legalise assisted suicides.
Posted by:Steve White

#18  Who gets to draft the "must kill" list?
Posted by: Kalchas   2005-02-04 5:42:21 PM  

#17  You know, Fred, there's a LOT about Europe that's beginning to bug me. There's something in particular I don't get about the prostitution thing...

Time after time we're told how much more socially liberal Europe is than the US.

If everything's so peachy keen and socially liberal, why do they have all that prostitution?
Posted by: Phil Fraering   2005-02-04 4:21:46 PM  

#16  Alternative name for the profession:

Sandman
Posted by: Dishman   2005-02-04 4:20:35 PM  

#15  Happy Mirth Day, Bucky!
Posted by: Mrs. Davis   2005-02-04 4:08:40 PM  

#14  Speaking of Mr. Muck4Doo, Happy Birthday! I didn't thinker he would last a year, but now he's an institution, not inner one.
Posted by: Shipman   2005-02-04 4:04:59 PM  

#13  as an unemployed gigolo I'd appreciate any references....
Posted by: Frank G   2005-02-04 11:05:35 AM  

#12  Fred, Mucky provided a link yesterday that showed the prostitute/unemployment thing is a myth. Your feeling is otherwise well supported by evidence, though.
Posted by: trailing wife   2005-02-04 10:56:38 AM  

#11  Well - we have it here in the US - not by name, but by frequent practice. A friend of mine was killed in a hospital (she was in for treatment for a buildup of water in her legs) by being given 'heart medicine' that killed her - after being asked NOT to medicate for anything but the leg problem.

She was the third person I knew that died in a hospital this year - under highly questionable circumstances.
Posted by: Ron C   2005-02-04 10:47:38 AM  

#10  It's a weird world, when doctors are required to kill people and women are required to become hookers. I don't think I'd like living in Europe anymore.
Posted by: Fred   2005-02-04 9:47:28 AM  

#9  Doctors should heal people.

If society wants abortion and euthanasia, it sould create a new profession, shall we call them executioners, and let them dispatch the unwanted.

I want to know if the guy is trying to cill me intentionally or or just get all my money before I die.
Posted by: Mrs. Davis   2005-02-04 7:45:45 AM  

#8  Oops my previous post should have read: the Euros are morally corrupt
Posted by: JFM   2005-02-04 7:30:52 AM  

#7  The same yoinks that want us to stop executing convicted murderers are coppin' a mope because the family doctor won't off Grandma?

UnFREAKINGbelievable!
Posted by: Darth VAda   2005-02-04 6:32:02 AM  

#6  What's really sad is that sixty years ago, the Dutch medical community was rightly praised for its stand against the Nazis on euthenasia.
Posted by: Mike   2005-02-04 6:20:49 AM  

#5  In fact it is worse than that: every year thousands of people are ethasianted against their will (ie murdered) but nobody says nothing about it and when prosecuted (a rare thing) the doctors get ridiculous sentences like small fines or minimal suspended jail time.

Now remember that murdered elders reduce the financial load on the pension and healhtcare system. The Euros are not only coward and decadent: they are also morally decadent.
Posted by: JFM   2005-02-04 6:10:49 AM  

#4  ^ That was me
Posted by: Bulldog   2005-02-04 3:37:41 AM  

#3  I'm not normally in favour of international professional boycotts, as they're too often hijacked by Leftoid nuts to persectue Israeli scientists, etc., but on this occasion - Dutch medics are clearly in flagrant breach of the hippocratic oath:

"...I will prescribe regimens for the good of my patients according to my ability and my judgement and never do harm to anyone. To please no one will I prescribe a deadly drug nor give advice which may cause his death."...

But then in our enlightened age few people seem to think that Hippocrates' specific moralising about abortion ("nor will I give a woman a pessary to procure abortion") is worth bothering with either.

Time to throw out the Hippocratic oath and all its anachronisms about preserving life and protecting the vulnerable? Maybe in Europe.
Posted by: Cling Pherese2662   2005-02-04 3:37:03 AM  

#2  "That's him!"
"Which one, lady?"
"The guy in the white coat with the stethoscope round his neck!"
"Don't worry ma'am, we'll get him"
"Don't let him escape! Ah! He's running away! Stop that man - STOP HIM! HE WOULDN'T KILL MY BABY!"
Posted by: Bulldog   2005-02-04 3:28:37 AM  

#1  So it's taken them less than three years to go from "euthanasia may be performed" to "doctors must perform euthanasia..."

Hmm.
Posted by: Phil Fraering   2005-02-04 12:35:38 AM  

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