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Arabia
Saudis caught in a vicious cycle
2005-01-21
Ohfergawdsake. It's written by Amir Butler. Wossamotta? You couldn't find anything by John Pilger?
With Australia conspicuously committed to both the "war on terror" and the occupation of Iraq, the threat of terrorism is always in the background. It has, thankfully, always remained just that: a threat. However, on a recent visit to Saudi Arabia, I entered a society where terrorism has gone beyond merely a threat to become a reality with which every citizen and resident must, in some way, contend. On the evening of December 29, 2004, terrorists attacked the Interior Ministry in Riyadh with car bombs. I had been eating dinner at the time, with some Saudi friends; one of whom was the imam of a mosque adjacent to the ministry building. Witnessing the flood of phone calls he received from family and friends, anxious to confirm he had not been harmed in the blast, it became apparent that, regardless of what might be commonly believed in the West, Saudi society is and continues to be a victim of terrorism.
Let's take a hypothetical case: I'm going to set up a secret laboratory in my basement, buy myself one of those white coats and some test tubes, and in true mad scientist tradition find the secret formula that will blow up Baltimore. I'm going to mix this and that, finally creating a bubbling red substance of unsurpassed volatility. It's going to be so volatile, in fact, when adding a few drops of this or that, changing the content only the least bit, it's going to blow up, destroying not only Baltimore, but me in the process. That will make me a victim, right?
The effects of the nation's struggle with domestic terrorism are visible everywhere. At times, Riyadh looks like a city under siege. There are regular checkpoints established along the city's freeways; tanks and armed vehicles sit outside government offices and "at risk" buildings; and even a trip to a popular city shopping center requires one's car to be searched extensively for bombs.
Shouldn't have added the baking soda. That was a really bad idea...
To untrained Western eyes, there may appear little visible difference between the fundamentalism of the Saudi population and the extremism of the terrorists. After all, both dress the same, practice similarly austere interpretations of Islam, and are concerned about similar issues, such as social justice and American intervention in the Muslim world.
Both are xenophobic, in the iron grip of holy men, marry close relatives one generation after the other...
Posted by:tipper

#9  lex - You're right. It's not easy to give it up, but your observation is on the mark. And Russians are doing it willingly, eyes open. In China it was different.

What may differentiate things today is who is sitting in the Prez chair. This time, do you think a Tiannamen would end the same way? A whimper? I think the dynamics would be quite different, but I'm not a fool for my own hopes - so it might end the same way, but with a scream that would not be forgotten for a long long time. Subversion of the military leadership - or a spontaneous flip, ala Moscow / Yeltsin - would alter the situation - and possibly tip it. They did bring in troops from the hinterlands to perform the crushing in Tiannamen - because they weren't sure / couldn't trust the local garrisons' loyalty. The calculus is interesting - and our penetration in China today might surprise some people, I'd wager.

You can far better explain Russia's love affair with tyranny. I freely admit I just don't get them. I once thought they were our natural new allies - the equation of who needs what and who has what was almost perfect - now I'm utterly disgusted with them, lock, stock, and barrel.
Posted by: .com   2005-01-21 1:28:03 PM  

#8   It only moves One Way

Not so. China's moved backwards since '89, as has Russia. Democracy's not a sure thing, and many simultaneous factors are needed to force it into bloom.
Posted by: lex   2005-01-21 1:06:00 PM  

#7  It is amazing how so many of these "visitors" fall for the Saudi bullshit. I remember when a Westerner, who understood Arabic, had to call Security because of the content of the Imam's Sermon coming from the University Mosque situated on the side of our compound. It was pure, unadulterated hatred!
Posted by: TMH   2005-01-21 12:57:14 PM  

#6  I'm with the Moose! Right on the mark. It only moves One Way.
Posted by: .com   2005-01-21 12:11:08 PM  

#5  Apparently the pre 9/11 sermons of these West Leaning Imans worked incredible well since only 15 of the 19 assholes were from Soddy Arabia. Keep up the good work guys and we'll continue to buy into your horseshit.
Posted by: Rightwing   2005-01-21 12:00:16 PM  

#4  I think he misses the real point. Saudi Arabia looks like an armed camp not just because of fear of terrorists. It is because their inbred leaders are terrified that democratic revolution is headed their way. And they have a good reason to be scared. Because while terrorists are fanatical and apt to go off like a bomb, they can only tear down. Democrats (in the good sense), are filled with lifelong determinism and realism. Democrats never stop. They have a philosophy, a plan of what to do. They know it will work, if by *any* means they can bring it about. And they also know that it will sustain itself on new believers. And this is why no other system has survived in a competition with democracy. There are even democrats hidden in their own ranks, their own family, and they know it. Democrats pushing for, and waiting for, that subtle balance to shift just enough so that nothing can stop it. And while I have said this in the past, President Bush made it abundantly clear last night to every remaining tyrant: your days are numbered.
Posted by: Anonymoose   2005-01-21 11:57:07 AM  

#3  Too funny! The guy starts with: "Although it may seem that all turban wearers look and think alike...."

Brilliant, Sherlock. I'm glad you got an opportunity to finally cross your county line.

Then he spews: Such analysis is fundamentally insincere. It begins with the intended culprit of fundamentalist Islam or "Wahhabism" firmly in mind, and then seeks to cobble together arguments to indict it - regardless of how detached from reality those arguments might be.

Speaking about detached...give this man a sucker. His translator clearly gifted him with deep insight that only a true rube could fully comprehend.

It's so lame, it's almost cute.
Posted by: 2b   2005-01-21 6:23:11 AM  

#2  I'm all sympathy.
Posted by: gromgorru   2005-01-21 5:57:40 AM  

#1  Saudis caught in a vicious cycle

What? Life?
Posted by: nada   2005-01-21 1:51:22 AM  

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