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| Misrepresenting Islam, again |
| 2005-01-04 |
| Last Friday, I was quite upset. I went to the mosque to do my Friday prayers as usual and listen to the mosque preacher as usual. I had one thing in mind before I entered, i.e., the Asian Tsunami and the horrific catastrophe it resulted in and which caused severe misery to millions of Muslims and innocent people from other religions. I thought the first thing any preacher would do is to pray for the victims, ask God for the protection of those of them still suffering without shelter or food. But what I got was ugly in the true sense. "You see, this is the power of God! Who ever know that death would come in such a quick instant. Those who died in Asia, how many of them were drinking, committing crimes, committing adultery, or practicing other evil deeds?" he asked. I was truly astonished. In a time the whole world is pledging to help, the preacher so openly implicitly or even explicitly criticized those who died saying that they are an example to all of us! What is going on? What are those preachers feeding their communities? The only mention of the Tsunami didn't last for two minutes. The remainder of his speech focused on traditional lecturing that he must have repeated for a thousand times or more. But suddenly, the preacher turns back again to call for the demolishing, the total destruction, the erasing, and the smashing of all Jews and America. How bizarre! In a time his Muslim brothers and sisters are suffering in South East Asia, this preacher returns to slam the USA, which by coincidence is the largest sole contributor to aid efforts to help them. I just wonder how those South Asian Muslims would feel if they know that hundreds of preachers are uttering such rubbish and feeding those in the mosque with ideas that bring hatred and enmity. Those preachers are in my opinion a reason why we are retarded as a nation. They preach hate and with no justification insult and accuse others calling them infidels, in a time those so-called 'infidels' are the ones currently helping. |
| Posted by:Fred |
| #12 Islam is not theirs, and if they claim ownership to it, we need to fight back OK, then start fighting already. The war against islamofascism can only be won, finally, if ordinary muslims take up the fight themselves. "nothing is necessary for the triumph of evil but for good men to do nothing" - Burke |
| Posted by: lex 2005-01-04 9:51:06 PM |
| #11 Let's compare Islamic and Christian descriptions of Hell and punishment, in the words of Mohammed and Jesus, respectively. Oh, yer kidding me. Really? You mean Jesus never talked about hellfire and brimstone, and being forced to drink boiling turds? That's pretty weird. Predestination is a little touchy in the Bible and Christianity, but the Qur'an takes it even further than John Calvin did. Don't even try to forecast the weather--it's sacrilage to "second guess" Allah's divine will. I'm not sure how this figures into the tendency for Muslims seeing God's punisment against sinners in disasters of every sort. I'll have to research the correlation. |
| Posted by: Angash Elminelet3775 2005-01-04 9:40:32 PM |
| #10 Exactly, let's go after the root cause of terrorism, the imams. |
| Posted by: Whutch Jesh6219 2005-01-04 5:38:38 PM |
| #9 JFM: They don't tell about "the victims had it coming" I think the sermon does have two pieces - (1) the sinful - i.e. non-observant - may be called a little early to judgment and (2) parishioners should shape up from a religious standpoint so that they are always ready to meet whatever deity they worship with a record they can be proud of. The first part sounds a little harsh to the ears, but Christian clergymen have been dishing it out for millenia.* Heck - read a few books of the Bible and you will see what I mean - the tradition wasn't exactly invented out of whole cloth. The narrative about Sodom and Gomorrah, for example, fairly exulted at their destruction. (I have to admit that the bit about not helping non-Muslims may be unique to Islam - Christian charities in the present age have not made conversion a requirement for receiving aid). * The Bible isn't just about the beatitudes (a call to be nice to the weak and the poor) - most of it is about individual responsibility. |
| Posted by: Zhang Fei 2005-01-04 4:41:27 PM |
| #8 Islam Is SHIT |
| Posted by: God Save The World 2005-01-04 3:27:02 PM |
| #7 Zhang Fei In time of disasters the hellfire and brimstone Christian pastors call for the faitful to help the vixrims and exert charity. They don't tell about "the victims had it coming" or "money from zakhat" should be kept for the faithful. |
| Posted by: JFM 2005-01-04 3:10:28 PM |
| #6 Article: âYou see, this is the power of God! Who ever know that death would come in such a quick instant. Those who died in Asia, how many of them were drinking, committing crimes, committing adultery, or practicing other evil deeds?â he asked. This sermon could have come from any Christian pastor. It's the stock hellfire and brimstone sermon - since you never know what will happen tomorrow, you need to come home to Jesus (or Allah, or whatever flavor of deity you happen to believe in). The issue isn't sermons like this - which are part and parcel of any religion with any kind of rigor - it's sermons that call upon the faithful to go forth and kill the infidel. |
| Posted by: Zhang Fei 2005-01-04 12:47:33 PM |
| #5 MSM is pretty gifted at ignoring when they really want to. |
| Posted by: VAMark 2005-01-04 11:19:01 AM |
| #4 I'd be willing to bet that outside the middle east, this IS the majority voice of Islam. Were that to be the case, it would be hard for the media to ignore it. So far, there's been very little news on this front. |
| Posted by: Bomb-a-rama 2005-01-04 11:10:50 AM |
| #3 more articles like this please. I'd be willing to bet that outside the middle east, this IS the majority voice of Islam. |
| Posted by: 2b 2005-01-04 10:06:08 AM |
| #2 Yours is the sole voice of moderate Islam I heard in 50 yrs. |
| Posted by: Glereper Craviter7929 2005-01-04 10:02:42 AM |
| #1 Who ever know that death would come in such a quick instant. Those who died in Asia, how many of them were drinking, committing crimes, committing adultery, or practicing other evil deeds?â he asked. A preacher after my own heart, let's talk about the low tensile strength of that thread holding your ass above hell..... |
| Posted by: J Edwards 2005-01-04 10:02:32 AM |