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-Signs, Portents, and the Weather-
The Mother Of All Shock Waves
2005-01-03
January 3, 2005: Apparently, at least three submarines (American, Chinese and Indian), detected the December 26th underwater earthquake that caused the tidal waves that left over 150,000 dead along the shores of the Indian ocean. Modern submarines carry sensitive sensors used to detect other subs, and surface ships. These sensors also pick up the sounds of underwater creatures, as well as underwater volcanoes and earthquakes. A Cold War system of fixed sensors in the Pacific also picks up natural underwater events, and led to the current early warning system there for events like the December 26th catastrophe. The American and Indian subs are said to have returned to base, but not the Chinese sub. If the subs were close enough to the quake, they could have been damage by the underwater shock waves that caused the tidal waves. Chinese subs are more likely to suffer damage from poorly trained crews, than from underwater earthquakes.
Posted by:Steve

#7  Thanks, Zen. My point is that authoritarian political structures invariably breed massive corruption, and to the extent that military command structures are implicated in this corruption, you get laziness, brutality inattention to detail and sheer incompetence in the officer corps. Knowing about the massive corruption of the Chinese military, I'd guess that the officers' competence is a good deal less than that of the industrial managerial class.
Posted by: lex   2005-01-03 11:45:19 PM  

#6  Personally, I like this little squib at the end:

Chinese subs are more likely to suffer damage from poorly trained crews, than from underwater earthquakes.
Posted by: Zenster   2005-01-03 11:35:30 PM  

#5  There is not mention of damage to ther Sub referenced. I would imagine the Chinese subs are still on station.

Subs with nuclear tiped missles are dangerous all the crew need to is be able to get them deployed. Their lack of skill in other respects isn't relavant as long as they can get even one off.

Don't make the mistake of under estimating the Chinese. It's a very bad mistake. Not all of them are farmers, not all the products they produce are crappy. If they so desire they can produce any item in sufficient quality and quanity for their purposes. There is a huge ignorance of China in the us. Most opinions about them are wrong. The Chinese educational system is a good one. The last thing anyone should do is think the Chinese are not able to engineer and invent technology was well or better than we can. It's a huge mistake.
Posted by: Sock Puppet of Doom   2005-01-03 10:41:26 PM  

#4  "One ping only, please."
Posted by: Seafarious   2005-01-03 10:12:29 PM  

#3  We now know how poorly trained and equipped the Soviets' Red Army was (is) at its height. Is China another "colossus with clay feet"?
Posted by: lex   2005-01-03 9:46:51 PM  

#2  '...American and Indian subs are said to have returned to base, but not the Chinese sub...',
What?! Do the Chinese have big balls after all, or were they incredibly stupid, like that Chinese pilot a few years back?! And no, I don't believe it was to prevent blowing their cover!
Posted by: smn   2005-01-03 9:36:26 PM  

#1  If the subs were close enough to the quake, they could have been damage by the underwater shock waves that caused the tidal waves

Okay... how close is that? Say .5 mile?
Posted by: Shipman   2005-01-03 10:52:06 AM  

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