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Iraq security forces seize rockets smuggled from abroad
2004-12-20
Iraqi security forces have captured rockets smuggled by rebels from a nearby nation with the aim of attacking polling stations and elections centers during the run-up to general elections, interim prime minister Ayad Allawi said. Allawi did not specify the type of missiles involved nor did he name the country from which the rockets were allegedly smuggled into Iraq. But he said Sunday that several government ministries are preparing a security plan to prevent attacks during the electoral campaign for a new legislature. "We captured (the rockets) at the beginning of this week. They were supposed to be fired by remote control. They were directed at election centers," Allawi told the Baghdad's Iraqiya television network in a live interview. "Information came from citizens who reported them to special telephone numbers at the Interior Ministry, the intelligence department and the Ministry of Defense Ministry. We did not capture (the rebels) but we seized the weapons. They are, in fact, very modern weapons and harmful at the same time."
French or German?
Allawi's comments came just days after he accused Syria of harboring senior officials from the ousted regime of former President Saddam Hussein, including his half brother, Sabaawi. Iraq's Defense Minister Hazem Shaalan accused Iran and Syria on Thursday of supporting terrorism in Iraq. "Regrettably I cannot name it, but we know these weapons were smuggled from a nearby country," Allawi said. "These weapons are usually used by armies and we have contacted the concerned country and we are waiting for an explanation. Our initial information shows that (this nation's government) had no knowledge" of the smuggled weapons.
Posted by:Steve White

#10  N Guard:
GMTA = Great Minds Think Alike. :)
Posted by: Shipman   2004-12-20 3:54:57 PM  

#9  Actually N. Guard your friend is pretty accurate as far as the effects go (dunno about the range though with such a warhead). AP/HEAT rounds of RPGs aren't very effective when you want to cause as much damage (collateral) as possible. I've got a friend over in Balad whos been saying that of late the RPGs and rockets they've been seeing come over seem to be the armor piercing/HEAT variety rather than general high explosives and prox fused ones for anti-personnel, these dont cause as much shrapnel to go flying about unless they hit a vehicle he says.

Anyway the article says its a bunch of rockets captured, and it makes wonder what TYPE of rockets are we talking about here. It sounds like they were modified FROGs or some other variety to me but hopefully they know which country sent them and are planning some serious payback.
Posted by: Valentine   2004-12-20 2:55:21 PM  

#8  If the country of origin of these little puppies can be determined, I'd suggest that a little message be sent via OUR version of "rockets". Namely, about twenty of them, and placed appropriately in certain strategic locations.
Posted by: Bomb-a-rama   2004-12-20 2:20:25 PM  

#7  I hate night shift.

What does GMTA stand for, Ship? and the improv RPG rounds are interesting in their own right. Typicaly the warhead is replaced with a ~60mm mortar bomb to gin up some light arty.

I have a Lebaneese (Christian of some sort, I think) co-worker who tells stories from the 75-85 civil war. He says that typicaly they woud fill the hollow cavity of the RPG heat round with diesel or gasoline to enhance the incindiary F/X. I have no Idea, but I suspect that either he's BSing, or only saw from a distance. such a mod would prolly have all kinds of bad F/X on the ballistic perf of the weapon.

And it is heartening to see the Iraqis starting to take care of themselves. Its such a joy to watch them grow up, [SNIFF. wipes tears and blows nose.]
Posted by: N Guard   2004-12-20 12:02:15 PM  

#6  2b---the Iraqis ratting out the terrorists is a good sign all right. The Afghans are doing it, too. It takes time to round up all the arms and explosives in Iraq. Just boggles the mind thinking about the tonnage that was hanging around the country!
Posted by: Alaska Paul   2004-12-20 10:00:13 AM  

#5  good point, AHM.

Sammy, Binny and their murdering band of thugs need to go back to the drawing board. They don't get it, because they grew up under dictatorships, but the people WILL show up to vote. It's just a fact, Al Jack. All they are doing is ticking off the Iraqi's who will be, how shall I say, less restrained once their government is elected by the people and the American Occupier's influence wains.
Posted by: 2b   2004-12-20 8:37:42 AM  

#4  I'll tell you what is encouraging to me, this story has Iraqi's seizing rockets. And there is the other story where the Iraqi's are arresting people for the bombings in Najaf. The Iraqi's. Not the US. Small steps, but steps in the right direction.
Posted by: AllahHateMe   2004-12-20 8:17:56 AM  

#3  Allawi seems to be getting a little irratated with Iran/Syria.Wonder what he has planned for after the election,I would think a little pay back is in order.
Posted by: raptor   2004-12-20 7:23:31 AM  

#2  GMTA N Guard. Also noticing that a lot of the RPG rounds are semi-homemade now.
Posted by: Shipman   2004-12-20 6:35:14 AM  

#1  The fact that they have to smuggle in ordinance is a good sign. I guess the Giant Ammo Dumps are finaly shrinking to the point that they can be protected from midnight requisitions by the Enemy.
Posted by: N Guard   2004-12-20 12:47:41 AM  

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