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Beijing warns EU on weapons ban
2004-12-03
China has warned the EU that it risks damaging bilateral ties unless it lifts a 15-year embargo on selling arms to Beijing. Chinese Vice Foreign Minister Zhang Yesui said the ban, imposed after the 1989 crackdown on protesters in Tiananmen Square, was "outdated".
Are the protesters still dead?
Mr Zhang also denied that lifting it would fuel an arms race with Taiwan.
"No, no! Certainly not! Why, we need weapons to oppress all sorts of people!"
The ban is expected to be discussed at a China-EU summit in the Netherlands on 7-9 December. "If the ban is maintained, bilateral relations will definitely be affected," Mr Zhang told reporters. "We think this is a kind of political discrimination." He denied that lifting the ban would affect relations across the Taiwan strait. China claims Taiwan is part of its territory and regularly threatens to use force against the island if it ever seeks formal independence.
They've threatened to use force even if the Taiwanese don't seek independence.
Germany and France have called for the arms ban to be lifted, while the US and some EU countries are in favour of it remaining in place. Washington has threatened to stop the transfer of some sensitive military technology to European countries if it were to be abolished. China pressed for the ban to be lifted at an Asia-Europe Meeting (Asem) in Hanoi in October, but was not successful. It will also be on the agenda of a visit to China by German Chancellor Gerhard Schroeder from Monday.

Fifteen years on from Tiananmen Square, when hundreds of unarmed protesters were killed by Chinese troops, there are continuing concerns among the international community about the country's human rights record. But analysts say the row is more about geopolitics and domestic economies than human rights. The US is concerned that arms sold to China by the EU could be used against Taiwan asnd risk sucking the US into a regional conflict. France and Germany, meanwhile, believe China could prove a fertile market for their arms and related industries.
Posted by:Steve

#6  Round eyes be sure to kow-tow real low before emperor. In this case, we should be sure to sell Taiwan several SSBNs, enough so that 1 or 2 are always on station in the eastern Atlantic.
Posted by: ed   2004-12-03 9:36:50 PM  

#5  Agreed. NATO's finished. Serves no purpose if it won't go out of area, and with France in it, it's guaranteed not to be of any real service in the middle east. Replace it with a triad of US-UK-Poland, with second-tier status for Ger-Turk-Italy-Den-Neth-Norw. Maybe add Western Ukraine (South Poland?) when it splits off from Little Russia.
Posted by: lex   2004-12-03 9:14:11 PM  

#4  All Europe doesn't want to jump into bed with the Chinese, only the French and their poodles. I would love to see us make this something of a wedge issue by dissolving NATO and establishing bi-lateral agreements with our allies and letting folks choose between the Anglosphere and the Sino-Francosphere.
Posted by: Mrs. Davis   2004-12-03 11:04:02 AM  

#3  ZF: If war breaks out over Taiwan, and the Huns and the Frogs continue supplying China, it should be cool to see whether JDAM's do the same damage on German and French arms factories as they did on Saddam's.

Come to think of it, it might be wise to withdraw our troops from Europe before contemplating this step. The question also becomes whether the French are willing to lose Paris in order to help Beijing.
Posted by: Zhang Fei   2004-12-03 10:45:10 AM  

#2  Article: France and Germany, meanwhile, believe China could prove a fertile market for their arms and related industries.

If war breaks out over Taiwan, and the Huns and the Frogs continue supplying China, it should be cool to see whether JDAM's do the same damage on German and French arms factories as they did on Saddam's.
Posted by: Zhang Fei   2004-12-03 10:42:39 AM  

#1  er, you mean they're not already selling them weapons clandestinely? I don't think I'll ever understand the Europeans.
Posted by: BH   2004-12-03 10:00:11 AM  

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