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China-Japan-Koreas
Japan spurns Russian initiative
2004-11-17
Japan has told Russia it will not be satisfied with the return of just two of the four disputed Kuril islands. Russia's Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov suggested at the weekend that Moscow might return two of the islands. Japanese Prime Minister Junichiro Koizumi said on Tuesday Tokyo would insist that all four islands seized by Soviet troops in 1945 be returned.
I confess little sympathy for the Japanese here. Next time, don't start a war.
The long-running dispute has prevented both sides from formally declaring an end to World War II hostilities. A Japanese government spokesman said Tokyo was hoping to discuss the dispute during the Asia-Pacific Economic Co-operation summit in Chile later this week. "If the two leaders [Mr Koizumi and Russian President Vladimir Putin] have a chance to meet, I think they will discuss the issue there," said Chief Cabinet Secretary Hiroyuki Hosoda. However Mr Koizumi said on Tuesday that "Japan cannot be content" with the return of just two of the islands. "We maintain the policy of concluding a peace treaty only after clarifying who owns the four the islands," he told reporters.
Which two of the three islands? Iturup and Kunashir might be worth having; Shikotan's a postage stamp with not much of anything but bad weather.
The three islands and a cluster of outcrops are currently inhabited by a small community of Russian fishermen and their families. Mr Koizumi recently restated his country's claim to the territory, known in Japan as the Northern Territories and in Russia as the southern Kurils. Moscow's offer is based on a promise by former Soviet leader Nikita Khrushchev, made in 1956, to return two of the islands - a pledge that was never fulfilled. In a Russian television interview, Mr Lavrov said the present Russian government should live up to the commitment. "We acknowledge this declaration, but its realisation requires a dialogue," he said. "No one has ever discussed how to perform this in practice."
"What can we get in exchange for the other two?"
Lavrov's statement was considered in Russia as an attempt to probe public opinion on the issue. Earlier this month Russia settled a territorial dispute over several river islands on its border with China.
Posted by:tipper

#7  He hasn't given up. It's just that he can't win. Which is why he's playing bully-boy in Ukraine and Moldova.
Posted by: lex   2004-11-17 4:41:16 PM  

#6  One way of reclaiming the area is to convince a more sympathetic population to head East. I wouldnt' give up on half of my nation so quickly if I were Putin.
Posted by: rjschwarz   2004-11-17 3:41:10 PM  

#5  Forget it. Russia's Far East is already lost. Putin doesn't even exercise real authority there. Its regional governments under the thumb of corrupt and brutal dictators masquerading as "governors", and in any case these regions will be effectively overrun by Chinese interests within a generation.

Kiss em goodbye, Volodya. You've got enough trouble on your hands in European Russia.
Posted by: lex   2004-11-17 12:03:32 PM  

#4  I could be wrong here, but didn't the Soviets declare war on Japan AFTER we dropped the first bomb? Sooooooooo, maybe the Japs have a small case here.
Posted by: Weird Al   2004-11-17 11:55:25 AM  

#3  Throw in oil.
Posted by: anonymous2u   2004-11-17 11:42:02 AM  

#2  "What can we get in exchange for the other two?" That is exactly the question. Russia should push for Japanese expertese/financing to upgrade the transsiberian railroad. Make it a bullet train so they can help shift some population over to the Pacific coast where the money is going to be made this century and ship some resources back to Moscow.
Posted by: rjschwarz   2004-11-17 10:53:26 AM  

#1  I agree. You start a war, you have to accept the consequences. There are no do-overs.
Posted by: BH   2004-11-17 10:52:56 AM  

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