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Terror Networks & Islam
'The West needs to understand it is inevitable: Islam is coming back'
2004-11-12
Hat tip http://www.jihadwatch.org/
The east London hall echoes to the sound of the speaker's voice: "They want us to redefine Islam to fit the agenda of the west," he intones, and the audience murmurs. "Islam is going to be political, no matter how hard they try. Islam itself is political. Allah has not remained silent when it comes to political matters."

The speaker is a member of Hizb ut Tahrir, the most controversial Islamic group in Britain today. Critics have called for the group to be banned, as it is in Germany, while supporters hail it as the saviour of the Muslim community. Hizb - the name means Party of Liberation in Arabic - is banned throughout the Middle East, and three British men are in jail in Egypt accused of propagating its views. In Uzbekistan, thousands of Hizb members are in jail, and a Russian thinktank has compared the group to al-Qaida.

Eighteen months ago, the group briefly appeared in the public eye when the wife of Omar Sharif, the Briton who launched a failed suicide-bomb attack in Tel Aviv, was found to have leaflets from the group in her home. Hizb ut Tahrir also has a presence on university campuses, where it has been accused of anti-semitism.
Posted by:ed

#9  Another way of looking at Islam is that it bears some similarities to pre-WWII Christianity in the Bible Belt of the US. In many places there was something of a dictatorship of the religiously intolerant--which came crashing down from 1945-1970. People suddenly realized that the Catholic Priests and Protestant Reverends really had no power their supplicants didn't give them. That it was *not their place* to order you how to vote, or spend your money, or how much you were required to give just because they said so. And Islam in some nations is starting to reach this point of economic success, democracy, and education, which destroys the power of the shaman. In truth, this is a war between modernity and civilization, and reactionary barbarism. In such a contest, barbarism loses unless it can annihilate all vestiges of civilization. The enemy, by any name, is just a vandal.
Posted by: Anonymoose   2004-11-12 10:04:27 PM  

#8  What remoteman said. What's missing from this statement? (Hint: begins and ends with "e"...)

'an American journalist warned the audience that America, China and India would never tolerate an Islamic state "strung like a belt across the world. There would have to be a response." '


Posted by: lex   2004-11-12 8:04:29 PM  

#7  Mr Patel may be the new face the pushes too far. If he does so we will see an alliance of the non-Muslim states like never before. Imagine what these asshats would do facing the wrath of the US, India, Russia and China (Europe is irrelevant). Can you say parking lot???? Unfortunately, the pessimist in me believes it will come to that. I pray it is otherwise and that those moderates within Islam gain power over its future direction.
Posted by: Remoteman   2004-11-12 7:19:15 PM  

#6  Kemal Ataturk, the founder of modern Turkey had this to say about the Caliphate and its results:

"Cruel and criminal laws in Turkey have been fixed for more than five hundred years on the rules and theories of an old Arab sheik, and through the abusive interpretation of ignorant and filthy priests....Islam, this absurd theology of an immoral Bedouin, is a rotten corpse which poisons our lives".

Let those modern day urgers of the Caliphate argue with that and and not harp back to some glorious mystical period that only ever existed in their fevered imaginations.
Posted by: tipper   2004-11-12 7:01:51 PM  

#5  Jalaluddin Patel obviously does not know the difference between a "War On Terror" and a "Crusade War against Islam"! Had this been a bonafide War of Christians against Muslims, the US's plight and other 'For Christ' nations, would have been much easier! Total Islamic national destruction could be acheived with or without the nuclear option, because the technology of the West leaves too wide a gap for "MAD" (Mutual Assured Destruction)!!
Posted by: smn   2004-11-12 5:51:30 PM  

#4  Wonder who's gonna be the Caliph.

Might be an interesting struggle for that one ....
Posted by: rkb   2004-11-12 4:43:59 PM  

#3  Jalaluddin Patel also had better understand that that big black rock in Mecca is now probably an aiming point.
Just so we "understand" each other. Okay, kid?
Posted by: tu3031   2004-11-12 4:42:25 PM  

#2  Coming back?!?!?

Not if I can help it, Bitch!
Posted by: JackassFestival   2004-11-12 4:28:37 PM  

#1  Ever notice that when movements start talking about the 'good o'days' and past glories, its the people who end up in big smoldering piles, usually the ones following such movements. Unfortunately, it also results in casualties on everyone else's part too.
Posted by: Don   2004-11-12 4:05:49 PM  

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