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Iraq-Jordan
70 insurgents killed in mosque battle - details
2004-11-11
A detailed account of the incident mentioned in an article below. Entertaining details, too.
American troops scored one of their biggest successes in the battle for Fallujah when an estimated 70 foreign fighters were killed in a massive precision artillery strike on a building in a mosque complex. Military intelligence officers were last night trying to confirm that a "high-value target" or HVT died in the attack. The man is suspected of being a key lieutenant of Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, the most wanted man in Iraq, and responsible for marshalling hard-line insurgence from other Arab countries.

The strike took place on Tuesday afternoon, less than 24 hours after the invasion of the rebel-held Sunni bastion began, after an Abrams tank commander from Phantom troop, part of the US Army's Task Force 2-2, observed large numbers of men converging on a building next to a mosque. "Guys with short brown hair, dark pants and carrying AK-47s were moving in groups of between two and five across the road to a yellow building," said Lt Neil Prakash, the tank commander. "Then some started throwing Molotov cocktails and pouring gasoline on the road to create a smokescreen." They apparently thought the smoke would obscure them from view.

Lt Prakash, whose call-sign is Red 6, observed the scene through the optical sight of his tank, 2,400 metres away in an "area of responsibility" or AOR covered by the 1st Company, 8th Marines, west of Task Force 2-2's AOR on the eastern edge of the city. The constraints of firing into another AOR, where US marines might be operating, and the danger of damaging the mosque, which would have provoked outrage in the Arab world, meant attacking the building had to be authorised at a very senior level.
Posted by:Bulldog

#18  Mow Em down like rabid dogs!!
Posted by: smn   2004-11-11 10:39:58 PM  

#17  Nice analysis LL. I hope you are right about the good guy Iraqis getting a taste of victory and the confidence to handle these jihadi clowns on their own.

What's happening right now is so lopsided it sounds more like very high stakes pest eradication than it does traditional warfare--even of the urban variety. I'm sure the jihadi's thought they could turn this into another Grozny. I'm very proud of our people that it's not.
Posted by: Classical_Liberal   2004-11-11 2:40:25 PM  

#16  Don't know about the accuracy,but I heard aquote attributed to Napolleon that goes"Only thunder and lightning are prefferable to cannon".From the classic western:Major Dundee.(Fall in behind the Major)
Posted by: raptor   2004-11-11 1:54:57 PM  

#15  Lieutenant Neil Prakash. Haaahahahaha, I love it.
Posted by: Bomb-a-rama   2004-11-11 12:43:14 PM  

#14  Great article, but I don't get the Gettysburg reference. There was no surrounding or last stand made at Gettysburg.

I hope it's more like Custer's Last Stand--Zarqawi's Last Stand has a nice ring to it.
Posted by: Dar   2004-11-11 12:26:39 PM  

#13  There's nothing quite like US artillery, trust me on that one.
Posted by: Bobby Lee   2004-11-11 12:25:05 PM  

#12  sounds like the US has purposely bypassed Jolan and is circling back to surround/drown the terrs there, also using the main e-w highway and the river as lemming-points
Posted by: Frank G   2004-11-11 11:49:45 AM  

#11  I sure hope it's not like Gettysburg. Kill every last one of them now.
Posted by: Mrs. Davis   2004-11-11 11:43:56 AM  

#10  Anon2: Naw, if the enemy is dumb enough to stay under observation for over an hour, they got what they deserved. They knew we saw them. They stayed put. Cause, meet effect.
Posted by: Chuck Simmins   2004-11-11 11:35:05 AM  

#9  1 hour!! now i start to think we can loose it....
Posted by: anon2   2004-11-11 11:31:47 AM  

#8  You pop smoke to mark your position - asshats.
Now, now, smoke is still used as a screen. Modern imagers are not much troubled by it though.
Posted by: SteveS   2004-11-11 11:29:56 AM  

#7  The press isn't telling you the half of it, Old Spook can confirm. This is a small example of how quickly and efficiently our Marines and soldiers have been killing them, and literally leaving them no time to regroup. After the battle you'll finally hear about how many IEDs there were, and yet they've had minimal effect on us. These jihadis are literally clueless and helpless against this offensive. When it's finished (including Ramadi, Baquba, al Bilal), the game will be up for Zarkawi, even if he lives. He'll have no chop houses, no video facilities, no factories to build bombs or car bombs. Some shit will continue to happen, but in sharply reduced numbers, and once the elections have passed, there will be no question of the legitimacy of the elected government.

Regrettably, the only thing we did wrong was not doing this a long time ago. But if we'd done it then, we wouldn't have been able to do it with all the Iraqi forces that are in the game now. Yes, we lost face in Arab world for stalling earlier, but the Iraqi forces get to gain serious credibility as a result of these operations. They've been on the losing end of the US stick and it sucks; now they get to work with us on the winning end of the US stick, and they get to win. Winning becomes a habit, and it's a habit they'll want to feed. Belmont Club needs to write this more poetically, but you're seeing the tide turn, even if the press has no clue what's happening. Can't promise that Iraq will become a rosy, happy arab democracy, but the nation is well on its way to fending off the predators who would claim it, from Syria and Iran to the jihadinazis and FRE. A year from now the insurgency will be a fading memory, and the Iranians will be shitting bricks as all those Iranian Shia make their pilgrimages across a peaceful, free Iraq to Najaf, and wonder why it can't be that way back home in Tehran.

And the jihadis, unable to affect Afghanistan, Pakistan, greater Russia or Iraq, will move to where they can operate more freely, Saudi Arabia, Yemen and North Africa. In the end, they will eat their own.

For all of you who've turned the Arab world upside down in the last three years, Thank you very much on this fine, fine Veterans' Day, and here's a belated Happy Birthday to our US Marine Corps (from a squid who's happy to have you on board).
Posted by: longtime lurker   2004-11-11 11:17:01 AM  

#6   OldSpook >> 10 years ago they still had those copperhead rounds that were laser designated/guided type rounds. At first I cringed when they used the term mosque...and 155mm rounds.

Just like Virginia Slims...."Arty, you've come a long way baby!"

"I saw him fall off, hit the ground and bounce up. There were about five bodies that went three, four, five storeys up in the air..."

ROFLMAO!!! Good job men!
Posted by: 98zulu   2004-11-11 10:57:48 AM  

#5  LOL Doc
Posted by: Frank G   2004-11-11 10:38:04 AM  

#4  Oh, one other thing - "They apparently thought the smoke would obscure them from view."

You pop smoke to mark your position - asshats.
Posted by: Doc8404   2004-11-11 10:30:27 AM  

#3  "20 155mm high-explosive" rounds?

Break out the DNA kit - you'll only be testing body parts, if there is anything left. Arty has come a long way since my day: they probably put them in a TOT, finishing half into the building then the rest air burst for the nice "Steel rain" shrapnel effect.

Artillery is the one thing we have not used until now. And now the criminals in Fallujah will learn why even the mighty German army of ww2 with it spnazers fears the US Army: Our ability to put artillery on anything and do it damned quick.

They dont call it "King of the Battle" for nothing...
Posted by: OldSpook   2004-11-11 10:22:22 AM  

#2  Wow, over an hour to confirm an artillery strike. Good to hear that they are at least trying to be polite about it, and even better to hear the political and military command said, "Screw 'em!"
Posted by: mmurray821   2004-11-11 10:05:46 AM  

#1  ....and indicated that the very senior Zarqawi lieutenant had perished. A final assessment on who died has yet to be made.

Yeah, we're still trying to put the pieces together - heh.
Posted by: Doc8404   2004-11-11 9:01:23 AM  

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