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Iraq-Jordan
US Troops Reportedly Gassing Fallujah (Islam online)
2004-11-10
IslamOnline.net & News Agencies - US troops are reportedly using chemical weapons and poisonous gas in its large-scale offensive on the Iraqi resistance bastion of Fallujah, a grim reminder of Saddam Hussein's alleged gassing of the Kurds in 1988. "The US occupation troops are gassing resistance fighters and confronting them with internationally-banned chemical weapons," resistance sources told Al-Quds Press Wednesday, November 10.

The fatal weapons led to the deaths of tens of innocent civilians, whose bodies litter sidewalks and streets, they added. "They use chemical weapons out of despair and helplessness in the face of the steadfast and fierce resistance put up by Fallujah people, who drove US troops out of several districts, hoisting proudly Iraqi flags on them. Resistance has also managed to destroy and set fire to a large number of US tanks and vehicles. The US troops have sprayed chemical and nerve gases on resistance fighters, turning them hysteric in a heartbreaking scene," an Iraqi doctor, who requested anonymity, told Al-Quds Press. "Some Fallujah residents have been further burnt beyond treatment by poisonous gases," added resistance fighters, who took part in Golan battles, northwest of Fallujah.

In August last year, the United States admitted dropping the internationally-banned incendiary weapon of napalm on Iraq, despite earlier denials by the Pentagon that the "horrible" weapon had not been used in the three-week invasion of Iraq. After the offensive on Iraq ended on April 9 last year, Iraqis began to complain about unexploded cluster bombs that still litter their cities. The sources said that the media blackout, the banning of Al-Jazeera satellite channel and subjective embedded journalists played well into the hands of the US military. "Therefore, US troops opted for using internationally banned weapons to soften the praiseworthy resistance of Fallujah people. More and more, the US military edits and censors reports sent by embedded journalists to their respective newspapers and news agencies."
Posted by:Atomic Conspiracy

#33  I wonder how we can get the truth across?

These rubes have been lied to so many times by their own captive press, that I truly wonder if there is any value, other than setup, for statements like the post on Islam today. Thats why I slammed down hard and fast. Propaganda statements liek this have no place other than to set the stage, unless their own people actually believe this garbage.

If it is the latter, then next thing you know, they'll trot out old Baghdad Bob and start claiming "There are no US troops in Fallujah".
Posted by: OldSpook   2004-11-10 11:17:56 PM  

#32  I agree Old Spook. We need to clamp down on this very hard and very fast. Otherwise our own treasonous MSM will jump all over it (evidence or no) just to attack America and further the terrorist's goals.
Posted by: CrazyFool   2004-11-10 10:14:02 PM  

#31  
Those sitting are exporting those saluting in familiar fashion (Nazi) into Iraq. The White House is working out the removal details.
Posted by: Mark Espinola   2004-11-10 9:15:35 PM  

#30  OldSpook, I totally agree.
Posted by: Mark Espinola   2004-11-10 9:07:50 PM  

#29  We do something - we cannot sit on our hands. Not in this case.


But this stuff has to be squelcehd or at least a lesson taught in consequences of actions. Especially if it is a setup to mask and defelect blame for chemical attacks that will cause horrenodus casualties amongst civilians, and will severealy damage our efforts to establish a free and just society in Iraq.

If its in Tehran or other places where we do not want to plant that much HE, there are ways of achieveing the same consequences, albeit on a more personal level.

A silenced .22 behind the ear of the editor and responsible reporter will work wonders.

So will simple paint cans of gasoline and some additives and a proper ignition source, placed strategically at certain businesses and homes in Iran.
Posted by: OldSpook   2004-11-10 9:04:45 PM  

#28  OS,

I'm confused and don't mean to be difficult.

Isn't this just enemy propaganda? How can the USG come down hard on anyone? I agree we should respond swiftly. But are you suggesting we bomb the Islam online office? If it's in Tehran? These reporters are certainly not embeds, so what can we do to them?
Posted by: Mrs. Davis   2004-11-10 8:55:34 PM  

#27  Folks, this is far more serious than you might think.

This is a setup. And its not a light hearted thing. The US Govt has to come down hard on this to prevent a lot of possible damage.

When the Jihadis use the Chem Weapons they have stashed in Syria (they were testing them in Darfur - so its not much of a leap at all to see them in Fallujah), they have just now set up the US to take the blame - very clearly that is what this is an attempt to do.

The US has to jump on this BS PR hard, with everything we have.

If they will not publish the truth they must suffer the consequences, as follows:

1) These reporters have become soldiers for the other side, they are therefore exempt from ROE and are very killable, or if taken prisoner they are to be interrogated, their equipment siezed, and they they shoudl be deported, preferrabely at 10,000 ft above their point of origin.

2) Their News HQ becomes a target. Broadcasting inside Iraq, they get a 500lb bomb on the antenna, a 500lb bomb on studios, and 1000 lb bomb on thier production and management HQ. If its print, then their presses get blasted with a 2000 pounds of TLAM guided "error correction".

This stuff has to be stopped, Hard, fast and as an example for other propagandists knowling spreading lies that are setting up greater war crimes by the terrorists.

Hopefully, we have good intel and they are not planning to use chems or the syrians have put the leash on these bandits - if not, then this telegraphed their intentions.
Posted by: OldSpook   2004-11-10 8:38:09 PM  

#26  Get the imbedded reporters video cams up, then find a building full of jihadis. Lob a bunch of cannisters of nitrous oxide (laughing gas) and record the fun. When they are done, get them outside and mow them down. Send it to an american extreme video show for s&g.
Posted by: Alaska Paul   2004-11-10 7:42:13 PM  

#25  â€œSome Fallujah residents have been further burnt beyond treatment by poisonous gases,” added resistance fighters, who took part in Golan battles, northwest of Fallujah."

Oh sure, everyone likes their own brand
Posted by: Fat Bastard   2004-11-10 7:29:35 PM  

#24  The last stand of the jihadees in Fallujah, some of the very same savages which burned Americans in the street & hung them on the closet bridge would gas & nuke every American ........if allowed. People should recall that fact.
Posted by: Mark Espinola   2004-11-10 7:14:05 PM  

#23  Marine Chow is excellent. The best, it has tobassco sauce for dessert.
Posted by: Shipman   2004-11-10 7:06:07 PM  

#22  AH! If they are loosing control over their bowels ... maybe it is that sonic weapon we were going to test that doesn't hurt you just causes instant runs!

The burning sensation without real burns could be the microwave area denial weapon. Again a non-fatal crowd control weapon.

I hope they are testing them!
Posted by: 3dc   2004-11-10 6:57:30 PM  

#21  Is Marine chow that bad?
Posted by: ed   2004-11-10 6:44:30 PM  

#20  I’m reminded of a discussion I had with a coworker one day. I opined that the reason certain neighborhoods had a drug problem was because they tolerated. If a young man/woman was selling drugs on my street corner they would need hospitalization. If people in other neighborhoods had the same attitude, they would not have a drug problem. When the Arabs stop tolerating Islamo-terrorists then it will go away. If I knew that the presence of somebody endagered my family (ie bombing), I would pursuade them to leave.
Posted by: Cyber Sarge   2004-11-10 6:20:43 PM  

#19  Trust me, after you nuke a couple of strongholds, recruitment will fall off drastically.

Recruitment would probably actually go up, the cannon fodder arm of this movement isn't particularly bright. Popular support for the Islamofascists would, however, quickly fall to near zero and it's unlikely they'd ever find another base of operations in a populated area.
Posted by: AzCat   2004-11-10 6:04:02 PM  

#18  Im pissed ...
Lying SOB, MuthaFricken raghead bastards ...
We will prevail
Posted by: leo88   2004-11-10 5:44:47 PM  

#17  LOL - Long Hair!
Posted by: CrazyFool   2004-11-10 5:37:53 PM  

#16  http://www.billroggio.com/
This is what the little towel heads are talking about:
From the Washington Post
"Some artillery guns fired white phosphorous rounds that create a screen of fire that cannot be extinguished with water"

Marine Birthday Candles ;-)

"Ooooh hot! oooh ooooh hot!! ouch oooh oooooh Mohammed pee on me will ya!!! I am on fire!!"
Posted by: Long Hair Republican   2004-11-10 5:26:21 PM  

#15  I only wish they would use a WMD on these yahoos. Why do people get squeamish when they talk about chemical or nuke weapons. A bullet makes you just as dead, nukes and chems just do it more efficiently. Trust me, after you nuke a couple of strongholds, recruitment will fall off drastically.
Posted by: Cyber Sarge   2004-11-10 5:08:13 PM  

#14  I don't remember who said it, but I'd like to recall it: "Darwinism in action"
Posted by: eLarson   2004-11-10 4:38:29 PM  

#13  Chuck is right, symptoms include: runny nose, runny eyes, muscle cramps, vomiting, muscle spasms, headache, difficulting breathing. This can also be induced by pure terror as the "fighters" go out to meet the Americans and only one or two make it back after watching their buddies get mowed down.
Hysterical or dead... a fitting end to the "resistance"
Posted by: mmurray821   2004-11-10 4:30:42 PM  

#12  Thinking about it, there was some concern on the part of the US that the jihadis might be setting chemical weapon traps for the Marines.

Or they accidentally had a number of them in their stockpiles -- remember the roadside IEDs that turned out to be sarin? -- and either had a work accident or our attacks hit one of the stockpiles.
Posted by: Robert Crawford   2004-11-10 4:24:29 PM  

#11  Blazing Saddles: Beans Scene
Slim Pickins: "Whew! I'd say you boys have had enough!"
Posted by: mojo   2004-11-10 3:48:28 PM  

#10  I teach a WMD course to EMT's. Which gas is it now that turns resistance fighters hysteric? Oh, yeah, the one they use on Democratic Underground.

I would advocate choke and puke, myself. Hard to maintain your heroic resistance while blowing lunch.
Posted by: Chuck Simmins   2004-11-10 3:40:06 PM  

#9  The sad news is that the muslim world (including the ones living in western countries) and American liberals will swear that it is true.
Posted by: Anonymous4724   2004-11-10 3:34:20 PM  

#8  No need to reverse-spin their lies, RWV. IslamOnLine + anonymous sources + no photos = pure bullshit.
Posted by: Tom   2004-11-10 3:32:57 PM  

#7  Thinking about it, there was some concern on the part of the US that the jihadis might be setting chemical weapon traps for the Marines. Could be the jihadis tried and were caught in the chemical clouds resulting from the destruction of their traps by heavy weapons fire. Or, perhaps, the technically challeged warriors of Allah found that they should have studied chemistry instead of the Koran and accidentally gassed themselves. A fitting end for the pond scum on the gene pool.
Posted by: RWV   2004-11-10 3:22:16 PM  

#6  BH: LOL! That's right.....MRE + tobasco = flatus enflagrante.
Posted by: Rex Mundi   2004-11-10 3:20:09 PM  

#5  Tear gas period........
Posted by: Bill Nelson   2004-11-10 3:18:51 PM  

#4  â€œThe US troops have sprayed chemical and nerve gases on resistance fighters, turning them hysteric in a heartbreaking scene,” an Iraqi doctor, who requested anonymity, told Al-Quds Press.

Sounds to me like a typical Arab explanation for their resistance fighters wetting themselves when they find themselves fighting soldiers who shoot back. If we used chemical weapons, the dead would not number in the tens, but in the tens of thousands. That's why they are called weapons of mass destruction.
Posted by: RWV   2004-11-10 3:17:07 PM  

#3  Ah yes -- it must be the poison gas that has the boys in Fallujah hysterical.

heh.
Posted by: too true   2004-11-10 3:15:25 PM  

#2  It's just the MREs talking. Sorry, folks.
Posted by: BH   2004-11-10 3:03:48 PM  

#1  Sorry, belongs on Page 1.
Posted by: Atomic Conspiracy   2004-11-10 3:03:00 PM  

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