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Kanada Huffs and Puffs and Sputters over US WoT / Security
2004-11-05
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#20  Thanks for the dis, man...

You're a democrat?!?!?
Posted by: Rafael   2004-11-05 7:50:29 PM  

#19  Back to the article at hand, the whole problem is Maher Arar is not only blown completely out of proportion, but is quite divorced from reality.
The United States generally sends illegal immigrants back to where they came from. No, really, where they REALLY came from. Unless they have other arrangements with the government of the gateway country, they go to their respective country of citizenship. As nice as it would be to send illegal Mexican immigrants traveling from the Okanogan orchards to America back to Canada, that isn't where they go. Terrorists from Syria with "asylum" claims in Canada might be similarly difficult to process.
Posted by: Asedwich   2004-11-05 7:47:11 PM  

#18  Mrs D - careful on the Caliphornia unless you want San Diego's military to conquer your state. The Blue's on the extreme coast, saturated around north LA/SF...
Posted by: Frank G   2004-11-05 7:45:00 PM  

#17  SPOD:
"Don't define Canada by the politics of Qubec which dominate the whole of the Canada"
You mean, define Canada by something other than a widely recognized, generally descriptive, and broadly applicable stereotype? Define Canada by something other than that which dominates the whole of Canada?
;)

Rafael--
I feel for you. I live just south of Vancouver. Man, are they loony up there. I'm pretty happy-go-lucky, and I can fake a decent Canuck accent, but the moment they find out I'm American (from the "States," eh?), I have to start hightailing it out of one-sided conversations.
Posted by: Asedwich   2004-11-05 7:39:58 PM  

#16  Ontario is like Michigan; Quebec is like Massachusetts.

Qanada can keep BC. Too much like Caliphornia.
Posted by: Mrs. Davis   2004-11-05 7:29:07 PM  

#15  Especially for Ontario (it's like Massachusetts).

Thanks for the dis, man...
Posted by: Raj   2004-11-05 7:23:41 PM  

#14  "The US can't treat Alberta, Saskatchewan, and Manitoba differently than Quebec and Ontario. "
Why not?
Posted by: raptor   2004-11-05 6:26:11 PM  

#13  There are those even in Québec that are not anti-American but they are few in number.
Posted by: Mark Espinola   2004-11-05 6:19:54 PM  

#12  The "good" Canadians' problem is that they share the country with Quebec and Ontario. The US can't treat Alberta, Saskatchewan, and Manitoba differently than Quebec and Ontario. Now, if they would like to petition for statehood, that's a different question. Both they and we would be better off with the newest US states being Alberta, Saskatchewan, Manitoba, British Columbia, Yukon, and Northwest.
Posted by: RWV   2004-11-05 2:46:55 PM  

#11  did the CBC pick up on the statements of Edward "Ted" Kennedy

You mean the "Iraq is Bush's Vietnam" comment, or something else? Pretty anything anti-Bush, or anti-American is embraced with open arms up here.
Posted by: Rafael   2004-11-05 2:38:42 PM  

#10  I have friends in Alberta.

Are you sure about that? Alberta is beef country. Last time I looked your border was still closed to Alberta beef. That's a big, big loss to Albertans. The good news is, that the biggest proponent of keeping the border closed to Albertan beef, Daschle, has been kicked out.

Alberta and Saskatechewan are more like red-state US

Oh really? :)

We cannot give up on the Canadians

As a Torontonian (and part-time Kingstonian), I can tell you that it is already too late. Especially for Ontario (it's like Massachusetts). Canadians seem to have been bitten by the bug that causes them to live in an alternate reality where evil does not exist. Little do they realize that if a nuke goes off in New York...bye bye eastern Canada. Pathetic, but what can I do.
Posted by: Rafael   2004-11-05 2:19:13 PM  

#9  There are a lot of responsible, good Canadians. They are as dismayed as us over the "liberalization" of their country as we are. There is a sense of helplessness as all these looney laws are passed. Hopefully, President Bush, in his second administration, will move forward and change some attitudes in this country by example. It is my hope that Canadians will be inspired to change their government for the better to become more responsible. We cannot give up on the Canadians (well, maybe Quebec, but not the rest of 'em).
Posted by: Alaska Paul   2004-11-05 1:23:41 PM  

#8  You guys are so right. I love Canada. I love the Canadians I've met. Did they love me as being from "The States"? Dunno. It didn't come up.

Question to Canadian readers: did the CBC pick up on the statements of Edward "Ted" Kennedy regarding the Iraq War? If yes, were they taken at face value? Just curious.
Posted by: eLarson   2004-11-05 11:40:05 AM  

#7  I have friends in Alberta. They are almost normal. They don't even have horns. Don't define Canada by the politics of Qubec which dominate the whole of the Canada
Posted by: Sock Puppet of Doom   2004-11-05 9:29:21 AM  

#6  Hey a macro!
Posted by: Shipman   2004-11-05 9:25:04 AM  

#5  Alberta and Saskatechewan are more like red-state US than most parts of coastal California or NY that I've been to.
Posted by: OldSpook   2004-11-05 9:21:36 AM  

#4  Agreed, OF. It's in our best interests to acknowledge and work with anyone in any country that shares our values and concerns.

Even those in France LOL.

Seriously, it is not useful to demonize Canadians as a whole. It's far more useful to work to marginalize idiotarians wherever they are found.
Posted by: rkb   2004-11-05 8:44:39 AM  

#3  Having been a frequent visitor to Canada in the past, I can gladly report that Canadians in the fly over country think this is as big a load of bs as we do.
Posted by: Old Fogey   2004-11-05 8:32:46 AM  

#2  Having been a frequent visitor to Canada in the past, I can gladly report that Canadians in the fly over country think this is as big a load of bs as we do.
Posted by: Old Fogey   2004-11-05 8:32:33 AM  

#1  To Canadians, 3000 American dead is not too high a price to pay for a hostile AyRab's personal freedoms, which, by the way, he cares nothing about.
Posted by: badanov   2004-11-05 6:05:56 AM  

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