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Home Front: WoT
Rights group lists Al-Qaeda suspects in secret CIA custody
2004-10-12
NEW YORK (AFP) - Human Rights Watch listed the names of 11 senior Al-Qaeda suspects it said were held by the CIA in secret locations overseas, where some had reportedly been tortured.
"Hambali who? KSM who? Nope. Nope. Never heard of those guys."
They never say who it is that is "reporting" this torture.
Tusk, tusk. Torturing al-Qaeda suspects. Terrible. Yep. Boy howdy, that's too bad.
The suspects were detained with no notification to their families, no Red Thingy Cross access and, in some cases, no acknowledgement that they are even being held, the New York-based watchdog said in a 46-page report.
Can I get a big whaaaaa! Terrorists got caught and are held where people like you clowns can't get at them. To bad for you. Who are you to have say over their treatment anyway? You gave no assistance in their capture. You instead prefer to protest their arrest and detention even thought they have admitted they are complicit in the acts they are held for. Somtimes even before they were captured.
"'Disappearances' were a trademark abuse of Latin American military dictatorships in their 'dirty war' on alleged subversion," said Human Rights Watch special counsel Reed Brody.
Oh forgot commie and leftists terrorists are your pals too, that makes you even more ignorant and clueless.
Obligatory reference to the "desaparecidos" so that you'll buy everything they're saying, ya know ya know.
"Now they have become a United States tactic in its conflict with Al-Qaeda," Brody said.
A good tactic for the US as well you asshats
Detainees profiled in the report included Khalid Shaikh Mohammed, the alleged principal architect of the September 11, 2001 attacks and Abu Zubayda, reputedly a close aide of Osama bin Laden.
Oh we should let you all carry messages back to Ben Laden frin him? I don't think so.
I wanted to insert the homing probe into his brain and let him go, but Emily wouldn't let me -- said I was being a wuss, as usual.
Steve, that's 'cuz the other cabdrivers will point and laugh.
Mohammed, among others, has reportedly been tortured in custody, according to the report.
Again with the "reportedly" phrase. Who is reporting it besides these clowns? Other clowns? No source is named.
While barely recognizing the United States' right to gather anti-terror intelligence, Human Rights Watch argued that the secret incommunicado detention of suspects violated the "most basic principles" of a free society.
They just don't get it and never will. This is not public information. They have no authority to requese anything. Thay are a distraction in the WoT
Guess they never heard the phrase about "the Constitution is not a suicide pact."
"Those guilty of serious crimes must be brought to justice before fair trials," said Brody. "If the United States embraces the torture and 'disappearance' of its opponents, it abandons its ideals and international obligations and becomes a lesser nation."
These people were not picked up on the street by the LAPD or by your Local FBI agents here in the USA. Their is no inherent right to a trial for these terrorists. They may never get a trial. They don't deserve trials.
Calling on the United States to bring all detainees, wherever they are being held, under the protection of the law, the report demanded that the International Committee of the Red Thingy Cross be given unrestricted access to all those held pursuant to anti-terrorist operations.
I am calling on sane people to examine your real motives and who you wre really trying to protect. Seems to me you sure care a lot about terrorists and there access to communicate with the outside world. Perhaps the spotlight should be on you, your membership and sources of funding.
Here's a quarter, HRW. Call somebody who cares.
Posted by:Sock Puppet of Doom

#20  Hi. It's agent Smith, here on a Herculess plane
flying at the hight of 30000 ft over North Atlantic.
Sorry about the noise---its the open door. Anyway, I can categorically state that we do not have any Al Qaida suspects in custody.
Posted by: Anonymous6092   2004-10-12 2:57:05 PM  

#19  
Human Rights Watch listed the names of 11 senior Al-Qaeda suspects it said were held by the CIA in secret locations overseas, where some had reportedly been tortured.
1. If it's so secret, how do they know?

2. Assuming everything they say is true (and that would take a big ASS), what's the problem exactly?
Posted by: Barbara Skolaut   2004-10-12 11:12:33 AM  

#18  In the mode of Scrappleface...

Amnesty International is very concerned about an overly large order of panties, purchased from Victoria Secret, and paid for with a government credit card with a billing address of Langely, Virginia...

"If we can find where those panties were shipped to, we can find the al-Qaedas who disappeared!"
Posted by: BigEd   2004-10-12 11:08:33 AM  

#17  HRW ethos:

Better to kill thousands of innocents than to detain one terrorist incommunicado.
Posted by: badanov   2004-10-12 10:03:45 AM  

#16  good post. I'm guessing what they are really all about is that $20,366.03 and that they are now for sale to the highest bidder.
Posted by: AP   2004-10-12 9:58:43 AM  

#15  They will beat their gums incessantly over the lowest of scum, but if something like a Washington State Ferry is sunk and people drown due to terrorists, these vermin will slink back into the shadows like cockroaches.

Here is some intel on Human Rights Watch, including their 990.

Their game:

Initiatives: Academic Freedom, AIDS, Business and Human Rights, Emergencies, Film Festival, International Justice, Lesbian and Gay Rights, Prison Conditions, Refugees.

Leadership: Kenneth Roth, Executive Director
Bruce Rabb, Secretary
Jonathon Fanton, Chairman

Annual * Revenue: $20,366,031

Here is the link to the IRS form 990, in .pdf format. There are contributers with big 7 figures, but no names, dammit. So, Frank, we cannot answer your question about who gives the money. OldSpook, any ideas?

Posted by: Alaska Paul   2004-10-12 9:45:36 AM  

#14  Disapperance'is a good tactic.Think about it.
Abu:Have you seen Mohomar?
Mohamad:Not for 2 or 3 days.
Abu:(with a tremolus voice)Wonder what happen to him?
Posted by: Raptor   2004-10-12 9:43:24 AM  

#13  hmmmm - wanna bet HRW receives money from THK's Tides Foundation? Calling Karl Rove! Ad buy!
Posted by: Frank G   2004-10-12 9:32:35 AM  

#12  and this is a bad thing?
Posted by: Frank G   2004-10-12 9:30:17 AM  

#11  Let's see...11 Al-Q who can't be found, a couple hundred people from the WTC who can't be found. Somehow, I'm just not sensing a real problem on the part of HRW.
Oh, and if they're in NYC, take them kicking and screaming if necessary to Ground Zero, then make them stand up publicly with a bullhorn and make their statements.

If they live, let 'em go home.

Mike
Posted by: Mike Kozlowski   2004-10-12 9:10:02 AM  

#10  Good point 2b.
Posted by: plainslow   2004-10-12 8:25:39 AM  

#9  It's ashame that these fools have kept themselves so busy protecting the rights of mass-murdering terrorists. Otherwise they might been able to muster more than a few weak, "someone must do somethings" re: Sudan, North Korea, etc., etc. etc., where totalitarians and despots cause human suffering on a mass scale.

I can understand it though. To complain about Sudan or North Korea, you actually might need to do something, like put down your latte and go over there to interview people and record the atrocities...icK! How dirty! How depressing!

Much easier to feel important talking about the "bigger picture" of smaller issues at the those wine and cheese fundraisers. Don't want to spoil the event by talking about rape of children or mass starvation. Ruins the appetite.
Posted by: 2b   2004-10-12 8:18:20 AM  

#8  I would love to see an honest poll on this. Khalid Shaikh Mohammed and Abu Zubayda can be hung from lamp posts in NYC without trial as far as I'm concerned.
Posted by: Tom   2004-10-12 8:15:07 AM  

#7  I wanted to insert the homing probe into his brain and let him go, but Emily wouldn't let me -- said I was being a wuss, as usual.

Considering the "homing probe" is best known as a fence post, it would have stood out a bit.
Posted by: Robert Crawford   2004-10-12 8:12:35 AM  

#6  The suspects were detained with no notification to their families, no Red Thingy Cross access and, in some cases, no acknowledgement that they are even being held, the New York-based watchdog said in a 46-page report.

Huh. People who aren't protected by the Geneva Conventions aren't getting any of its benefits.

Whoda thunk it?
Posted by: Robert Crawford   2004-10-12 8:11:22 AM  

#5  Yeah -thats right - tell Al Qaeda who we have detained so they know where their network has been compromised and all the cells know who has been compromised.

This bunch of idiots will have blood on its hands.

Just liek the ACLU that sued and prevented the police from doing watches and searches on the Washington (state) ferries because it was "dsicriminatory" against Arab looking people.
Posted by: OldSpook   2004-10-12 7:57:53 AM  

#4  "it abandons its ideals and international obligations and becomes a lesser nation."
We're French!!!!!
Posted by: plainslow   2004-10-12 7:39:27 AM  

#3  I would like to take credit for their disappearance. Please tell their families that they can be found chained to trees in my backyard wrapped in bacon, its bear season you know.
Posted by: JerseyMike   2004-10-12 7:16:26 AM  

#2  This has nothing to do with the WoT and everything to do with the election. Don't expect to hear about this after November 2.
Posted by: Mrs. Davis   2004-10-12 2:51:35 AM  

#1  I can't proof read very well. Oh well, stuff happens.
Posted by: Sock Puppet of Doom   2004-10-12 2:34:10 AM  

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