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Terror Networks
Steady Hand Urged Against Islamic Terror
2004-09-29
The West must stop associating Islam with terrorism, violence and poverty, top officials from three southeast Asian nations said.
Why? Terrorism associates itself with Islam, so why shouldn't it go both ways?
In separate speeches before the U.N. General Assembly on Monday, leaders from Malaysia, Indonesia and the Philippines said Islam is not an impediment to modernity and democracy and should not be viewed as incompatible with economic growth and ethnic tolerance. Indonesia's Foreign Minister Hassan Wirajuda said the success of his country's first-ever direct presidential elections this month is proof of an Islamic nation's commitment to the democratic process. "As the country with the largest Muslim population, Indonesia has proven that Islam can be a bastion of democracy and social justice," he said. Indonesia -- which has arrested more than 150 militants in the past two years -- is seen as an important front in the fight against terrorism. The Jemaah Islamiyah militant group has been blamed for several major attacks in Indonesia, including the October 2002 bombings on the island of Bali that killed 202 people, mostly foreign tourists.

In the southern Philippines, the Moro Islamic Liberation Front has been fighting for an independent Muslim territory for about three decades. Another separatist group, Abu Sayyaf, has a 13-year history of kidnappings and beheadings and envisions turning a string of southern islands into an Islamic enclave. "The Philippines believes that conflicts should be addressed before terrorism can begin to define or exploit the conflict. This can be done by working together with other nations," Philippines Foreign Minister Alberto Romulo said.
Posted by:Mark Espinola

#14  The Qur'an itself directly associates Islam with terrorism (as well as Slavery, Rape, Murder, Robbery, etc...) Just look at the life of Muhammad himself. Are these muslims saying that the 'holy' book of Islam is wrong?

Qur’an 9:5 “Fight and kill the disbelievers wherever you find them, take them captive, harass them, lie in wait and ambush them using every stratagem of war.”

Qur’an 9:3 “Allah is not bound by any contract or treaty with non-Muslims, nor is His Apostle.”

My vote is that they are lying.....
Posted by: CrazyFool   2004-09-29 4:44:36 PM  

#13  Outer Hebrides sounds good Mojo - I'm sure we have other far-flung outposts of our once great empire which are equally suitable... I think we still own a couple of rocks in the Atlantic somewhere.
Posted by: Howard UK   2004-09-29 4:22:34 PM  

#12  There IS a difference between the Arabic Moslems and the island Moslems, at least in Indonesia. The Indonesians actually despise the Arabs, considering them uncouth, ruthless, offensive, inexcusable, and "unbrotherly." The Arab Moslems probably hate them because of their lack of deference to the "master race" of Arabia.


Posted by: ex-lib   2004-09-29 2:27:33 PM  

#11  It is a lovely place in November, I can assure you.
Posted by: Alaska Paul   2004-09-29 11:49:16 AM  

#10  Howard:
May I suggest an open-air facility in the Outer Hebrides?
Posted by: mojo   2004-09-29 11:02:05 AM  

#9  Tolerance is a two way street.
Posted by: Anonymous6092   2004-09-29 10:38:34 AM  

#8  Yep, know hwat you mean - sweet fa will happen util our very own 9/11-Bali-Madrid and then will be the time for the normal muslims to come off the fence and stop speaking'with forked tongue'. Until then put your tin hat on and brace.
Posted by: Howard UK   2004-09-29 4:53:08 AM  

#7  Gruinard., Howard. As regards the problem of Islamic fundies - there may be a time when we have to actually implement penalties for treasonous behaviour, which will encourage the 'enemy within' to pack off or shut up. If/when we do get our 9/11, I don't see public opinion tolerating the like of Hamza or Red Ken's imported hate-mongers getting away with so much as one instance of shit speech. But that'll probably be what it takes before we address the issue of disloyalty to the country seriously. Of course, the multi-cultis' agenda of segregating groups and discouraging cultural assimilation hasn't helped matters. We must both know plenty of people born and raised in the UK, speak no other language than English (and often talk rather posh), do all things other Brits their age do, yet 'aren't sure' where they feel they belong because of their skin colour and an insistence that they should hold to the habits of their parents, whatever they might be. The domestic cultural 'situation' isn't helped by people who dig trenches for every perceived minority group.
Posted by: Bulldog   2004-09-29 4:26:11 AM  

#6  No. They must be sent to Northern Ireland were that wonderful multicultrial society will welcome them with open *arms.

*arms being cricket bats, chains, table legs, barrel staves, broken bottles, "petrol bombs"…
Posted by: Sock Puppet of Doom   2004-09-29 4:19:11 AM  

#5  Bulldog - by their own admission on the Beeb on Sunday eve (chat-show response to the dirty-bomb drama), the Muslim Council of GB said that 9% of London's population was muslim (9% of 8 million = 720,000 muslims in London). Of this the representative of MCB said that only 1% of the muslim population were fanatics that posed a potential threat (1% of 720,000 = 7,200). Loose figures admittedly, but as a crude guide we have 7,200 fundies in London. So why do the MCB bitch that we have 500 people in Belmarsh and other establishments? I see a good case for repatriating/ detaining 7,000. We may need a particularly inhospitable Scottish island for this - where did those anthrax experiments occur fifty odd years ago?
Posted by: Howard UK   2004-09-29 4:03:16 AM  

#4  Islam is not an impediment to modernity and democracy and should not be viewed as incompatible with economic growth and ethnic tolerance.

Thanks, Mark - I need a good laugh as I take to my desk in the morning.
Posted by: Howard UK   2004-09-29 3:43:39 AM  

#3  "The West must stop associating Islam with terrorism..."

If Muslims did a whole lot more to stop terrorists associating Islam with terrorism I think we'd be getting somewhere. It isn't Taoists, Anglicans, Buddhists or Sikhs whose beds are infested with fleas.
Posted by: Bulldog   2004-09-29 3:34:41 AM  

#2  Someone in JihadWatch asked succinctly: "What's the difference between islamic Jizya and Bumiputraism?".

Badawi himself an islamic student must necessarily BS and root for his own kind. Problem is this is a world after 9/11, Bali and Beslan and the World notices. He himself in his younger days in the Public Service Commission more than 3 decades ago was already sneaking in his kindreds for government employment without making the minimal grades.
Posted by: Lie Buster   2004-09-29 2:59:58 AM  

#1  I don't associate Islam just with terrorism, violence and poverty. I also associate it with religious persecution, genocide, tyranny, sexism, racism, blind exultation of criminal behavior, homicide, homosexual hatred, genital mutilation, pederasty, selling of girls to men old enough to their grandfather, and a general, haven't bathed for a week, stinky smell. Is that clashy enough for you Abdullah?
Posted by: ed   2004-09-29 1:00:41 AM  

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