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Suicide bombers accepted by Muslim leader
2004-09-29
Basim Ghozlan, the manager at Det Islamske Forbundet, one of the largest Muslim organizations in Norway, stated that suicide bombers are accepted if they kill enemies.
Oh, yeah. Sure. That's okay.
«If the goal in itself is accepted, than this should also be accepted,» Ghozlan said to the Norwegian radio channel Kanal 24.
That would rather imply to me that if the tactics are filthy, so's the goal...
In a Q&A section at the Muslim website islam.no, Ghozlan responded to a young boy who asked about suicide bombers. The Muslim leader answered the boy's question by defending the use of suicide bombers. «If you attack a cruel enemy, then it's not a coward way, rather the opposite. The people who do this are actually very brave,» Ghozlan answered. He stressed that for example Israel claims that all settlers are legitimate goals for suicide bombers.
I think the setence should probably include "(comma) where he" before the word "claims." Otherwise it makes no sense whatsoever, instead of being the usual sophistry.
«Suicide in order to hit the enemy: if the war is legal, seen from Islamic point of view, and if you do not have any other way of striking the enemy than by giving your own life, this is allowed. The demand not to hit the innocent must not be forgotten.
"So the best thing is just to tell yourself that none of 'em are innocent and let 'er rip."
"Unfortunately, we see in many cases that suicide bombers hit many more innocent than they wish to. In Iraq innocent people are killed almost daily because of such blind bombs. This is no jihad. The Prophet never urged anyone to do anything like that. If it happens in occupied areas where the suicide bombers attack settlers and soldiers, it is another issue. The situations have to be discussed separately,» Ghozlan wrote in his answer to the boy.
He means "settlers" like little 4- and 5-year-olds.
«I almost become a little scared when I hear this,» said Petter Eide at Amnesty International Norge.
Oh, do you really? Almost. A little.
He stated that Ghozlan's statements are completely unacceptable.
Then why are you accepting them?
«What he says is that he is actually legitimates murder,» Eide said to Kanal 24.
Yeah. That's what he's saying. Hardly any of the usual obfuscation the colonists use in countries where the don't have a big enough segment of the population to be able to bully the majority.
He urges Muslims in Norway to reject Ghozlan's statements. «I really hope the Muslim environment in Oslo address these statements because they are completely unacceptable,» Eide said.
"But if they don't, well, I guess I'll just have to accept them, won't I?"
Frida Nome, an expert in Middle Eastern issues, said that she did not think these statements were shared by most Muslims.
"No, no! Certainly not! They are our friends!"
«I don't think Muslims in general support this,» Nome said. «I think it's odd that he dare say this in Norway.»
Doesn't sound in the least odd to me.
Posted by:Fred

#10  Truth time for EUrabia. If you want to preserve your welfare states, you need immigrants, and millions of them. But if you can't figure out how to expel the jihadists and assimilate the rest, then you will preserve your welfare state only at the expense of western liberal civilization. They get the haters; we get the strivers.

Perhaps EUrabians might want to take a few lessons from the hated yankee capitalist melting pot on this one? Maybe there's hope for the notion of "the West" after all.
Posted by: lex   2004-09-29 11:46:03 AM  

#9  In the world of PC, things considered "hate speech" are given a pass when Muslims spout it. Read the PC rulebook.
Posted by: Alaska Paul   2004-09-29 11:40:30 AM  

#8  Tarnation. "Site," not "sight." Off to bed.
Posted by: The Caucasus Nerd   2004-09-29 5:56:27 AM  

#7  stopped reading after first 5 words 'A highly respected Muslim leader '
Posted by: MacNails   2004-09-29 5:21:02 AM  

#6  Yes, I know it's just the Norwegian domain name, but "islam.no" is befitting of this sight on so many levels.
Posted by: The Caucasus Nerd   2004-09-29 4:48:24 AM  

#5  History will rember Islam as a Cult responsible for kidnapping, torture, rape, dehumanization of opposition and extreme cowardice in the face of even moderate odds. Thankfully the last remainder of this dangerous cult gave it up in 20__ and the remainder are a part of the desert that glows in the dark.
Posted by: Fawad   2004-09-29 4:21:13 AM  

#4  It takes a warped mentality to equate blowing up kids with Bushido.
Posted by: Super Hose   2004-09-29 2:57:10 AM  

#3  I thought this shi'itte was called "hate speech".
Posted by: Comment Top   2004-09-29 2:49:47 AM  

#2  Ã‚«If you attack a cruel enemy, then it’s not a coward way, rather the opposite. The people who do this are actually very brave,»

This works both ways. It justifies bombing, shooting, beheading the muslim invaders in Norway.
Posted by: ed   2004-09-29 1:20:46 AM  

#1  With maggots like Ghozlan spewing sh!t like this, a person almost has to hope that Norway leads the way and becomes the first coutry to outlaw Islam.

Central members of Kristiansand Progress party claims Hitler’s «Mein Kampf» and the Koran are one of the same, and they want Islam banned in Norway.

Until Islam rids itself of this sort of drift into militancy, it is nothing less than a political ideology that seeks covert overthrown of every non-Islamic government on earth.

The day is drawing nearer when Islam will be banned outright in all civilized countries. After Beslan, my once-solid opposition to this concept has essentially zeroed out. If there is not an immediate, vigorous and genuine effort made by Islam to purge itself of these violent psychopaths, then it must be dismantled as a political agency without benefit of religious protection.
Posted by: Zenster   2004-09-29 12:50:27 AM  

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