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Israel-Palestine
Israel-Syria in War of Words
2004-09-03
This week's suicide attack in Israel has sparked a war of words between Israel and Syria and increased pressure on the Israeli government to finish the West Bank barrier that many Israelis believe saves lives. As Israel mourned its 16 dead from Tuesday's twin bus bombings in the southern desert city of Beersheba, officials ratcheted up their rhetoric against Syria, hinting at possible military action. The militant group Hamas, whose leaders are based in Syria, claimed responsibility for the attacks. Syria and Hamas, apparently fearful of an Israeli strike, accused Israel of trying to aggravate tensions. Although no Israeli strike appeared imminent - security officials said they had not begun discussing the possibility - the heated rhetoric underscored Israel's growing impatience with Syrian support for Palestinian militants.
"Don't make us come in there!"
Prime Minister Ariel Sharon told Israel's president that the bus bombings, the deadliest attack in Israel in nearly a year, were carried out on direct orders from Hamas leaders in Damascus, the Syrian capital. A senior adviser to Sharon, Raanan Gissin, warned earlier that neither Hamas nor Syria was "immune" to an Israeli strike. Foreign Minister Silvan Shalom said Syria's support for terrorists "will have very clear consequences."
"And we aren't telling you again!"
However, the chief of Israeli military intelligence refused to draw a straight line from Beersheba to Syria. "We did not directly connect the terror attack that was carried out in Beersheba to the (Hamas) headquarters in Damascus," Maj. Gen. Aharon Zeevi-Farkash said in an interview with Channel 10 television. But he also stressed there is "wide and comprehensive support from Damascus" for militants in the West Bank and Gaza. Syrian Foreign Minister Farouk al-Sharaa was quoted as saying threats would "worsen the already aggravated situation in the region." Ahmed Haj Ali, an adviser to the Syrian information minister, said Syria was taking the Israeli talk seriously.
"Cheez, have you seen their order of battle?!"
Posted by:Steve White

#24  RN, now that you mention it, the Crusaders did not make Jews wear a yellow badge as a decoration, but to warn potential victims of their predatory nature, just as Hitler did hundreds of years later. BTW, in one of the above named pre-1978 biographies there's reference only to a 'European Holocaust' which Jews hijacked subsequently.
Posted by: UFO   2004-09-03 7:36:54 PM  

#23  RN, now that you mention it, the Crusaders did not make Jews wear a yellow badge as a decoration, but to warn potential victims of their predatory nature, just as Hitler did hundreds of years later. BTW, in one of the above named pre-1978 biographies there's reference only to a 'European Holocaust' which Jews hijacked subsequently.
Posted by: UFO   2004-09-03 7:36:54 PM  

#22  this is just about the biggest crowd of Zionists on the web

Thank you for the compliment. But you ought to be careful -- we rule the world, you know, and now you've made yourself a target. Keep an eye out for funny tasting food and drink, symptoms of painful and embarrassing diseases, or odd little mistakes in your personal and financial records...at least to start with. We'll start to get creative later, ok?
Posted by: trailing wife   2004-09-03 9:56:50 PM  

#21  Good Lord?!

That's pious talk coming from a satanic piece of shit if ever I saw one.

..this is just about the biggest crowd of Zionists on the web.

Well fuck off then.
Posted by: Bulldog   2004-09-03 8:25:54 PM  

#20  Bulldog, make a donation to Rantburg before asking Fred to clean up your garbage, he's not your servant. Good Lord, this is just about the biggest crowd of Zionists on the web.
Posted by: UFO   2004-09-03 8:13:12 PM  

#19  Read the comments and you'll get a clue as to what we think of your nature, UFO. Why do you hang around here where everyone thinks you're scum? Are you a masochist as well as an idiot? Or just here to pimp your pervert website?

We need a cleanup in aisle 15, guys...
Posted by: Bulldog   2004-09-03 7:59:03 PM  

#18  RN, now that you mention it, the Crusaders did not make Jews wear a yellow badge as a decoration, but to warn potential victims of their predatory nature, just as Hitler did hundreds of years later. BTW, in one of the above named pre-1978 biographies there's reference only to a 'European Holocaust' which Jews hijacked subsequently -- do a Google search, the URL is censored here.
Posted by: UFO   2004-09-03 7:44:08 PM  

#17  RN, this is the first time (I think) that term was specifically associated with the massacre of Jews. The term itself is much older and comes from the Old Greek holókauton, for "a completely (holos) burnt (kaustos) sacrificial offering". Therefore Jews prefer the Hebrew word "Shoah" (השואה), which means "desolation". I remember hearing the term Holocaust during the Nurenberg Trials, although only in English. In Germany the term was only widely known after the film "Holocaust" had been shown in 1979. Shoa (with spelling variation) is used increasingly often now, in order to avoid the theological ("sacrificial") meaning associated with "Holocaust".

For those interested in the varieties of Holocaust denials, the Wikipedia article is a good start.
Posted by: True German Ally   2004-09-03 7:41:48 PM  

#16  and BTW, in her 1975 autobiography Golda Meir coined 'The Holocaust' which thereafter for the first time started appearing in English dictionaries

To pay for the Crusades, both the French and the Brits went looking for ready money...the Jews weren't allowed by law to own land, but they could operate businesses and lend money. So when times got tight...who do you call..."moneylenders", when they had too much of your money...just force them out, or kill them.

Thus, for UFO...may I submit this piece of history:

Holocaust - Literally "fire that causes destruction", it has become associated virtually exclusively with the murder of six million Jews by the Nazis during WWII. As a term holocaust was first coined in 1189 by Richard of Devizes when describing the massacre of Jews in England following the coronation of Richard the Lionheart.
Posted by: RN   2004-09-03 6:54:43 PM  

#15  Encountering Rantburg's trolls makes you realise how much absolute crap people out there actually believe. There is truly no limit to human credulity. UFO: you are a brainwashed fool. I feel sorry for you. Your life has been a waste of time and energy.
Posted by: Bulldog   2004-09-03 6:15:48 PM  

#14  The child pornographer? That figures.
Posted by: BMN   2004-09-03 6:01:51 PM  

#13  Serbian lop-eared troll returns
Posted by: Frank G   2004-09-03 5:30:04 PM  

#12  DLS, must be nice to have the advantage of a censored forum where the opposition's supportive evidence is filtered out. Anyway, pre-1978 biographies of Ben Gurion and Menachem Begin substantiate what I said about Zionists, and BTW, in her 1975 autobiography Golda Meir coined 'The Holocaust' which thereafter for the first time started appearing in English dictionaries.
Posted by: UFO   2004-09-03 5:26:34 PM  

#11  Who is this UFO clown? Zionists refused to let Jews leave Germany during WWII???The only way Jews were leaving Germany during that war was on board trains headed east. This "forced" Hitler to intern them??? This guy isn't just on drugs, he's actively hallucinating. Or he's been reading muslim newpapers. Same difference. TGA. Agree. This guy is so far off the deep end he would be funny, except the subject is anything but funny.
Posted by: DLS   2004-09-03 4:19:13 PM  

#10  I'm starting to get seriously annoyed by this idiot.
Not that he matters much.
But a buzzing mosquito at night is annoying, too.
Posted by: True German Ally   2004-09-03 2:53:37 PM  

#9  UFO--

Obviously your paymasters in Tehran must be pleased by your work. On the other hand, ihe Mossad only does away with effective people, not the subnormals like you.
Posted by: BMN   2004-09-03 2:49:37 PM  

#8  Come now, how many Jews were caught recently staging 'anti-Semitic' attacks in France, Germany, US and elsewhere? During WWII Zionists refused to let Jews leave Germany in order to force Hitler to intern them in labor camps where many died due to malnutrition and typhus as did German soldiers in the field.
Posted by: UFO   2004-09-03 2:46:31 PM  

#7  How many more 'bombings' can Israel stage before the world catches on?

Bwaaahahahahahahaha!!!!

So, do you think the Jews rule the world? That the Mossad is everywhere? We wanna know.
Posted by: Bomb-a-rama   2004-09-03 2:15:21 PM  

#6  UFO - I suppose Israelis were behind the school siege as well. I wish I knew your identity cause I'd rip your fucking head off.
Posted by: Howard UK   2004-09-03 1:50:08 PM  

#5  You deserve being banned for spouting shit like that. Tool.
Posted by: Bulldog   2004-09-03 1:37:25 PM  

#4  How many more 'bombings' can Israel stage before the world catches on? Is the world that stupid or just intimidated by anti-Semitic rhetoric?
Posted by: UFO   2004-09-03 11:12:41 AM  

#3  "The West Bank barrier that many Israelis believe saves lives."

"Believe?"

This is exactly the same spin the BBC put on the wall in its report on the Beersheba bus bombings. It seems the BBC and Associated Press can't bear the idea of Jewish lives actually being saved.

Posted by: Bryan   2004-09-03 5:15:31 AM  

#2  Lol, SH! Spot-on. Everyone (read: media idjits, Arab League & similar) keeps up the steady drumbeat about the fragile stability of the region. Lol! What stability? That pause between attacks? Between wars? The fucking hudnas? Between murder-bombers?

There's nothing to preserve in the region except Israel. All the rest, Fug'em. Fast and hard, like you did when you were young and in a hurry.
Posted by: .com   2004-09-03 2:30:08 AM  

#1  Bombings are OK but threats would "worsen the already aggravated situation in the region."
Posted by: Super Hose   2004-09-03 2:24:58 AM  

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