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Iraq-Jordan
Tater to burn down the house
2004-08-19
From Debka:
Heavy fighting in Najef Thursday around Imam Ali Mosque. Awalli government accuses besieged Shiite cleric Sadr of cheating when he offered to accept ceasefire terms and leave mosque with his militia. Instead, all 2,000 militiamen are barricaded inside and shooting from there at US-Iraqi siege force. DEBKAfile notes Sadr never put his name to the offer reaching the National Council in Baghdad Wednesday.
TomAnon:
Stay tuned boys and girls. When Tater is routed out of the mosque I bet he brings it down with him. Any takers?
Posted by:TomAnon

#10  Sleepy gas? Let's just drop 12 professors of Flemish economic history on 'em.
Posted by: Dr Irving Fleet speaking from the hereafter   2004-08-19 8:26:26 PM  

#9  We need to borrow some of that Russian sleepy gas they used on the theater. I'm surprised we haven't used something similar yet...

I'm with you 100%, Fred. Screw the negative publicity and get the job done. We have damaged ourselves much more with all this dithering.
Posted by: Zenster   2004-08-19 6:47:47 PM  

#8  Just like hollow point bullets are legal for police but banned under the Geneva Convention for military. However, CS gas has been used regularly by militaries for tunnel clearing : urban zone clearing if a "riot situation" is formally declared by the civilan authorites should provide sufficient legal cover for military forces to use CS. I would personally prefer the use of phosgene in this case.
Posted by: Anonymous6115   2004-08-19 12:36:14 PM  

#7  AFAICR, our forces couldn't use tear gas -- or any other gas -- because it could be taken as a war crime.

Iraqi forces could, however, since those agents are perfectly OK for law-enforcement use.

(No, it doesn't make sense to me, either. I just remember reading that the rules are different.)
Posted by: Robert Crawford   2004-08-19 12:27:44 PM  

#6  We need to borrow some of that Russian sleepy gas they used on the theater. I'm surprised we haven't used something similar yet...
Posted by: Fred   2004-08-19 12:25:11 PM  

#5  Tear Gas?
Posted by: 3dc   2004-08-19 12:18:28 PM  

#4  Relto Steve - Probably to join Saddam's demon seeds in "VIRGIN COUNTRY" is more likely. . .
Posted by: BigEd   2004-08-19 12:03:06 PM  

#3  Al-Khafaji also said that al-Sadr did not have the authority to disband his Mahdi Army militia or to force his followers to give up their arms.

Not a problem. If a bullet to the head of each and every member is required to put an end to this group's reign of terror, then by all means, get a move on. There's work to be done, and the sooner it's started, the sooner it'll be finished.
Posted by: Bomb-a-rama   2004-08-19 11:44:19 AM  

#2  Ready to join Saddam, Sadr?
Posted by: Steve from Relto   2004-08-19 10:12:37 AM  

#1  Fierce fighting was reported around Najaf’s holy shrine today after a rebel cleric’s aide rejected a government ultimatum for Muqtada al-Sadr’s militia to disarm or risk a massive offensive.
Sheik Aws al-Khafaji, the head of al-Sadr’s office in the southern city of Nasiriyah, said the ultimatum proved the government “wants only war.” Al-Khafaji appeared to be speaking on his own behalf and not in al-Sadr’s name. Other aides holed up with the cleric in the holy city of Najaf appealed to the government to negotiate and end to the violence there.
Al-Khafaji also said that al-Sadr did not have the authority to disband his Mahdi Army militia or to force his followers to give up their arms.


"That word has to come from Mahdi Army HQ, in Tehran."
Posted by: Steve   2004-08-19 9:16:04 AM  

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