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"Religion of Peace" and its 14 current wars
2004-08-09
Article on Michaelsavage page - see the link.

Pretty remarkable in that its war, and its around the world... is it a World War?
Posted by:Oldspook

#8  I have just a little quibble. IMO, I don't think that the common factor is the number of Muslims alone, although that is surely the dominant factor. I think it also has to do with how seriously a given country takes Islam.

Malaysia and Indonesia were not troubled places until relatively recently. The same can still be said for India's large population of Muslims. In every case where Muslims do live or used to live peacefully with their neighbors of other faiths, the telling thing is that in all cases Islam was watered down to a great degree either by fusion with tribal religions as in Indonesia and Malaysia, or in India's case, by a far less literal interpretation combined with a desire to modernize in emulation of the English. (The English, by the way, controlled the educational system of India for many many years. This is not coincidence, I think)

But in all the places where Islam is both dominant and taken entirely seriously, these are the basket cases of the world. You simply can't take it seriously and must metaphorize it (water it down) until its basically a cultural or personal preference for there to be any hope of success and peace. This is because any one who wants to take it seriously must accept mohammed's (MHRIH)* murderous and treacherous behavior as the perfect model for all mankind. One must also find a place for the literal jihad described in many verses of the Koran that cannot be easily explained away.

*May he roast in hell.
Posted by: peggy   2004-08-09 1:20:00 PM  

#7  Anon, with the exception of Korea, those wars are pretty much OVER. Savage's list gives those that are hot.
Posted by: Ptah   2004-08-09 8:46:59 AM  

#6  In the language of Alexander Kojeve's theory of history, linked to yesterday (www.policyreview.org), many of the wars of the last half century were proxy wars between the "Slavic-Soviet Empire" and the "Anglo-American Empire". Applying this theory to the Muslim world, you could say that having perceived the failure of the nation-state idea within its area (the "failed state" phenomenon) the Muslim vanguard is attempting to establish a transnational consciousness as a first step towards an Empire of its own. Unfortunately this consciousness appears to be based on rape, pillage, plunder, and terrorism.
Posted by: virginian   2004-08-09 8:15:08 AM  

#5  Thwe left likes it Communists :)
Posted by: djohn66   2004-08-09 2:47:07 AM  

#4  Anon - none of those were wars of religion - they were wars to kill Communism (A form of religion for the Left I guess).
Posted by: Oldspook   2004-08-09 2:09:17 AM  

#3  A1126, none of those were global conflicts. Crushing jihadi terrorism is.
Posted by: Zenster   2004-08-09 1:39:36 AM  

#2  How about Vietnam, Korea, Haiti, Guatemala, Nicaragua, Colombia, Chilea wars (etc …)?
Posted by: Anonymous1126   2004-08-09 1:27:43 AM  

#1  Yes, unbeknownst to most people (or at least they act like it), this is World War III. If the Islamists continue their pursuit of atomic weapons, it will probably become a nuclear war as well.

Savage's article was linked to in yesterday's Rantburg and I'll post the same chart here that I did then:

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6.3 million Muslims in the Balkans, mostly in Bosnia and Herzegovina, Kosovo, Albania and Republic of Macedonia
62.4 million Muslims in Turkey
284.4 million Muslims in the Arab League including Iraq (with about 15 million Shia, 60% of the population)
254.0 Muslims in Sub-Saharan Africa
65.4 million Muslims (90% Shia) in Iran
48.5 million Muslims in Central Asia - in Azerbaijan, Uzbekistan, Tajikistan, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Turkmenistan - formerly republics of the Soviet Union.
26.7 million Muslims in Russia
22.7 million Muslims in Afghanistan
230.0 million Muslims in Pakistan and Bangladesh
133.3 million Muslims in India - the world's largest minority population
133.1 million Muslims in China - a close second
196.3 million Muslims in Indonesia
30.0 million Muslims in the rest of South-East Asia, especially Malaysia

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Please note how those regions with the highest populations of Moslem people read like a laundry list of genocide, terrorism, torture, theocracy, border conflicts, women's and human rights abuses. Need I remind everyone that this is not a coincidence?
Posted by: Zenster   2004-08-09 12:34:16 AM  

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