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Ex-detainee: US soldiers defiled the Quran
2004-07-07
In excerpts from an exclusive interview with Aljazeera, a former Guantanamo detainee reveals details of torture, abuse, and religious persecution. Wissam Abd al-Rahman Ahmad said he was captured in Iran, transferred to a Kandahar detention facility in Afghanistan, and finally imprisoned at Guantanamo Bay.
That's interesting. How'd we capture him in Iran?
Claiming he was beaten and routinely insulted with profanities while in Afghanistan, Ahmad said that US soldiers tried to 'break' him using psychological warfare. "They stripped me naked with a bag over my head. One of the soldiers turned me around, removed the bag and I saw a female soldier looking at me," he said.
"She pointed at my pee-pee and laughed!"
"They knew that it is an insult to our religion to appear thus before women," he said.
"It's because our doinkers are so tiny!"
But Ahmad claimed that although he had been beaten and abused, he was asked only one question - his relationship to al-Qaida and Usama bin Ladin. "I told the interrogator, who spoke with an Egyptian accent, that I had no involvement with al-Qaida or anyone, but the man proceeded to insult me and threaten that he would perform profanities on my mother," Ahmad told Aljazeera. The former Guantanamo detainee - now in Jordan - had told his interrogators that Pakistani intelligence knew of his whereabouts the whole time and could corroborate his story. However, nothing compared to the agony of seeing the Quran defiled, Ahmad told Aljazeera.
"The agony! I just... I just... I couldn't take it! I'm scarred for life! Wanna see?"
"Put your pee-pee away, dammit!"
"I could bear all the obscene abuse and all the beatings but I was agonised to see one US soldier stomp on the Holy Quran, while another soldier in Kandahar threw it into the toilet," he said. While in detention at Bagram air base, Ahmad recounted how a female soldier entered his cell to search him. She had brought a dog with her and she proceeded to give the dog the Quran to sniff through. The full interview is to be broadcast in a special segment on the Aljazeera Satellite Channel later in the week.
Posted by:Fred

#54  I still look at Voices of Palestine it's very informative have a look.
After all I visit sites who's views are wrong(like here)so maybe you should visit sites which are right
Posted by: Antiwar   2004-07-07 2:04:33 PM  

#53  Yep they are quite Prejudiced(mostly)
Posted by: Antiwar   2004-07-07 12:36:49 PM  

#52  THIS MAY BE MY LAST WORD OR MAYBE NOT.

How would you like if the Bible were treated this way. Think about it.
Posted by: Antiwar   2004-07-07 7:43:44 AM  

#51  AMERICAN SOLDIERS FUCK THEIR MOTHERS UP THE ASS WHILE SHE SUCKS THE DOGS PRICK AND SWALLOWS.

Posted by: Guess Who   2004-07-07 2:00:48 PM  

#50  I HAVE BEEN HERE BEFORE.
BWAAHAHA.
Posted by: GUESS WHO   2004-07-07 4:30:14 AM  

#49  AMERICAN SOLDIERS FUCK PIGS BECAUSE THEIR MOTHERS SAID NO
Posted by: GUESS WHO   2004-07-07 3:30:04 AM  

#48  Besides the fact that this clown is a lying ahole. None of what he detail can be proven. But that doesn't matter to Al Jackarammait's intended to get the diptards riled up and teh BBC putting it on the fron to it's news.
Posted by: FlameBait93268   2004-07-07 4:53:34 PM  

#47  LOL 5597!
Cruel.
Posted by: Shipman   2004-07-07 3:35:14 PM  

#46  Ah, yes. The "sucking dog dick" comment. When you have absolutely, totally, indisputably nothing left to offer the panel.
Posted by: tu3031   2004-07-07 2:43:03 PM  

#45  Antiwar just loves to get castigated!
Posted by: Anonymous5597   2004-07-07 2:19:09 PM  

#44  I still look at Voices of Palestine it's very informative have a look.

Depends on what you mean by "informative". For the majority of posters here, it's proof that the Palestinians aren't worth a plugged nickel. For you, it's proof that others hate Jews as much as you do.
Posted by: Bomb-a-rama   2004-07-07 2:14:36 PM  

#43  Guess Who:

quoting from the koran, are ya?
Posted by: PlanetDan   2004-07-07 2:09:01 PM  

#42  Antisemite????? :-(

Posted by: Sweetiepea   2004-07-07 2:06:23 PM  

#41  [Off-topic or abusive comments deleted]
Posted by: Antiwar TROLL   2004-07-07 2:04:33 PM  

#40  [Off-topic or abusive comments deleted]
Posted by: Guess Who TROLL   2004-07-07 2:00:48 PM  

#39  Antiwar...there's an old country song that says "how can I miss you if you won't go away." Get the point?
Posted by: Sgt.DT   2004-07-07 1:59:46 PM  

#38  Welcome back, Antiwar. Voices of Palestine get sick of you already?
Posted by: tu3031   2004-07-07 1:42:03 PM  

#37  burqa buddies
Posted by: Frank G   2004-07-07 1:12:17 PM  

#36  that in sweet! :)
antiwar is find herself a friend.
Posted by: muck4doo   2004-07-07 1:09:00 PM  

#35  Sweetiepea: If you bothered to *read* what is in the pages of the Quran, you would soon find that what is printed there "is NOT very nice", including exhortations to kill infidels, take women as spoils of war, etc, not to mention Mo-ham-head's assorted forays into rape, murder, and pedophilia. In short, Rushdie was right--the book is filled from cover to cover with "Satanic Verses".

Antisemite: Run along, the adults are having a discussion here.

Posted by: Crusader   2004-07-07 1:02:02 PM  

#34  THIS MAY BE MY LAST WORD OR MAYBE NOT.

I was hoping for the former. Thanks for nothing...
Posted by: Raj   2004-07-07 1:00:48 PM  

#33  [Off-topic or abusive comments deleted]
Posted by: Antiwar TROLL   2004-07-07 12:36:49 PM  

#32  Crusader that is NOT very nice. :,-(
Posted by: Sweetiepea   2004-07-07 12:35:11 PM  

#31  Personally, I keep a copy of the Quran in my bathroom. That way, if I run out of toilet paper at an inopportune moment, I can simply tear pages from it to put to good use.

Posted by: Crusader   2004-07-07 12:10:10 PM  

#30  In excerpts from an exclusive interview with Aljazeera, a former Guantanamo detainee reveals details of torture, abuse, and religious persecution.

Al Jazeera? Yawn.
Posted by: Bomb-a-rama   2004-07-07 12:09:08 PM  

#29  Why should it bother them? We've been told this is not a religious war. Leaving a skid mark on their koran is fair game.
Posted by: Chris W.   2004-07-07 11:38:52 AM  

#28  shoot, the koran would be a good toilet tissue substitute.
Posted by: Anymouse   2004-07-07 11:33:48 AM  

#27  Hmm, funny--nothing about how beforehand he said (and of course he would have said) it was good so many Americans died in 9/11. These boys never ask for this-they are always only good boys!
Posted by: jules 187   2004-07-07 11:21:11 AM  

#26  Maybe Antiwar changed her mind Frank :-)

Smile and be happy everyone

You didn't answer my question re Saddam(talking to everyone)
Posted by: Sweetiepea   2004-07-07 11:02:38 AM  

#25  Aw Frank, now you've gone and done it - pissed off the entire micro-kingdom of virii and bacteria! Prepare to meet your micro-Hellstrom doom!

So turn your head and cough, heh.
Posted by: .com   2004-07-07 10:27:39 AM  

#24  Antiwar - thought you were gonna go away, but just like Herpes you keep coming back
Posted by: Frank G   2004-07-07 10:08:41 AM  

#23  Give us your GPS coordinates and we will send it by air.
Posted by: ed   2004-07-07 10:08:28 AM  

#22  Hokay! Now where do I pick up my infidel Yankee moneys? Or do they just send to me?
Posted by: Wissam Abd al-Rahman Ahmad   2004-07-07 10:03:33 AM  

#21  He threw the whole thing in the crapper?!? Jeez, talk about a waste of toilet paper. You're supposed to tear the pages out one at a time.
Posted by: BH   2004-07-07 9:55:55 AM  

#20  Stupid people worry about a defiling book (ie GUESS WHO)
Posted by: Anonymous5592   2004-07-07 8:32:28 AM  

#19  Yup, I'd rather have my bible in the loo than my head rolling around the floor.
Posted by: Howard UK   2004-07-07 8:26:58 AM  

#18  
Frankly, I believe his story. Certainly he was stripped naked, a bag was placed over his head, and then he was shown that a woman was present.

There's nothing unbelievable about his claim that his interrogator spoke with an Egyptian accent and insulted his mother.

Maybe he was beaten somewhat, as he himself defines that term (someone else might say he was just treated roughly).

I believe a female soldier might have brought a dog into his cell and that the dog might have sniffed his Koran. The part about some guard throwing his Koran into a toilet is the hardest to believe, but it might have happened. Maybe this prisoner threw a huge tantrum about the dog and the Koran, so one of the guards reacted that way to show who was the boss.

It seems from the story that all this happened in Kandahar, not in Gitmo.
.
Posted by: Mike Sylwester   2004-07-07 8:15:04 AM  

#17  I did:

We treat the Koran like that and the Moose Limbs walk out alive when we are done.

They treat the Bible like that and they carry Christians out dead.

Big, big difference.
Posted by: badanov   2004-07-07 7:46:38 AM  

#16  [Off-topic or abusive comments deleted]
Posted by: Antiwar TROLL   2004-07-07 7:43:44 AM  

#15  Whatever happened to that guy who snuck into the girls dorm and took naughty pictures of himself and the gals' possesions?
Maybe in return for a pardon we can slip him into Karbala with a digital camera.
Posted by: Shipman   2004-07-07 7:11:55 AM  

#14  They (muslims) will consider just about anything as defiling their religion. I witnessed an infidel and a muslim woman almost come to blows at the gym. The reason: the muslim woman pulled out her rug to pray and the shadow of the infidels was defiling the moment.
Posted by: Anonymous4617   2004-07-07 5:18:15 AM  

#13  So what, Guess who? you'll get banned again, too.
BWAHAHAHAHA.
And I'm 99% certain that this story about the Koran being 'defiled' was made up to rile the Moooooslims back home and to make the sympathetic Western journos weep over the cruel American 'crusaders' behavior.
Posted by: Jen   2004-07-07 4:54:21 AM  

#12  [Off-topic or abusive comments deleted]
Posted by: Guess Who TROLL   2004-07-07 4:30:14 AM  

#11  At least their mothers are in a position to say 'no' unlike Muslim women.
Posted by: Howard UK   2004-07-07 4:22:31 AM  

#10  Muslims are not "filthy trash" nor are they some of the stupidest people on earth. The actions of those claiming to be Muslims, such as beheading innocent civilians or crashing airliners into tall buildings, blaspheme Islam far more than Halfass Pete can imagine on a good day.
Posted by: Ben   2004-07-07 4:08:47 AM  

#9  Lol! A bona-fide screecher Mooslim? I sure hope so, we haven't had a good laugher in quite a while. And you look prime... Lol!

Please, GUESS WHO, elaborate!
Posted by: .com   2004-07-07 3:58:06 AM  

#8  [Off-topic or abusive comments deleted]
Posted by: Guess Who TROLL   2004-07-07 3:30:04 AM  

#7  I wanna know what the dog would have done if given the prisoner to "sniff through."
A decent bite might have been too much to ask. Recent news regarding canine preferences of Muslims vs. Zoroastrians shows that Muslims might be too bad even for the dogs.
Posted by: therien   2004-07-07 3:13:14 AM  

#6  What Losers! After so many centuries of cultural inbreeding, they can't even lie well. I was hoping for something along the lines of "1001 Guantanamo Nights", like the Arabian classic but with jumper cables and women's panties.
Posted by: SteveS   2004-07-07 2:41:30 AM  

#5  ...threw it in the toilet -- oh, that's just the bobbing for apples contest.
Posted by: Capt America   2004-07-07 1:55:42 AM  

#4  My bet is that Ahmad had a civil union with Osama. "Performance profanities on my mother," well it beats the goat I guess (I suspect not by much however).
Posted by: Capt America   2004-07-07 1:54:13 AM  

#3  However, nothing compared to the agony of seeing the Quran defiled, Ahmad told Aljazeera...but I was agonised to see one US soldier stomp on the Holy Quran, while another soldier in Kandahar threw it into the toilet,"
That caused a boo-boo in my terrorist heart.

"I told the interrogator, who spoke with an Egyptian accent
Foreign aid to Egypt FINALLY paying off, perhaps, after all the years of zilch???

Ahmad recounted how a female soldier entered his cell to search him. She had brought a dog with her and she proceeded to give the dog the Quran to sniff through
Pet-oowie! I thought this was supposed to be a search for dog food. Instead my nostrils and my canine eyes are shocked by nutty Quran commands like "kill the infidels and their furry friends"...yuk, that deserves a big growl, heck, maybe even a giant bite in the smallish male privates I see before me...
Posted by: rex   2004-07-07 1:14:11 AM  

#2  Lovely to know this will be beamed far and wide in the umma via AJ.
Posted by: Verlaine   2004-07-07 12:50:14 AM  

#1  Oh Ethel Wahina, my pills! Lol! I love sacred object abuse. My personal favorite pasttime is defiling stuff. Sigh.
Posted by: .com   2004-07-07 12:12:21 AM  

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