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Judge in Davis Trial Allows Depositions and Taguba Report
2004-06-21
From The Washington Post
A U.S. Army judge on Monday accepted a request by attorneys of soldiers accused of abusing detainees to question the military’s top commander in Iraq and all his subordinates. The order affectively compels Lt. Gen. Ricardo Sanchez, the top U.S. general in Iraq, and Lt. Gen. Thomas Metz, the second-ranking commander of U.S. forces in Iraq, and their subordinates to participate in a deposition with defense attorneys and Army prosecutors unless they invoke their rights against self-incrimination. The judge, Col. James Pohl, rejected defense requests for memos between justice department attorneys, Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld and other Pentagon officials regarding the use of interrogation tactics. ...

A defense attorney for Davis, Paul Bergrin, said he wanted court members to see Abu Ghraib for themselves, the Reuters news agency reported. "We want the court members to smell the fecal matter and the urine that service members who worked inside that prison and who are accused in this case had to live with," he said.

The judge denied defense requests to change the location of the courts martial and legal proceedings but said he would reconsider his decision if defense attorneys could prove at a later date that their clients could not get a fair trial in Iraq. Pohl granted a request by Bergrin to declassify all of an Army investigative report by Maj. Gen. Antonio Taguba. The 6,000-page report ...
Posted by:Mike Sylwester

#6  I was being sarcastic, mocking the defense attorney's whine.
Posted by: Robert Crawford   2004-06-21 10:50:52 AM  

#5  RC, were you being sarcastic in the first post? OR is that just Mike impersonating you?
Posted by: Charles   2004-06-21 10:11:28 AM  

#4  There has got to be a term for someone who does that

major media?
Posted by: Frank G   2004-06-21 9:51:41 AM  

#3  Mikey loves to creatively edit what others say. He can't find stuff to fit his weird views, so he makes them up!

There has got to be a term for someone who does that.
Posted by: badanov   2004-06-21 9:23:15 AM  

#2  Oh! More of Mike's creative editing! Why did you edit the end of that last sentence, Mike?

The 6,000-page report found evidence of what it called "sadistic" abuse of Iraqi detainees at Abu Ghraib prison, a sprawling complex west of Baghdad.

Oh, and get a load of this gem:

Guy Womack, a civilian defense attorney for Graner, told reporters that his client is being made a scapegoat.

"No one can suggest with a straight face that these MPs were acting alone," Womack said.


Then they should NOT have gotten the Taguba report into the record. The psychologist's opinion that it's a CLASSIC EXAMPLE of an unsupervised group run amok is not gonna help their Nuremberg Defense.
Posted by: Robert Crawford   2004-06-21 9:12:37 AM  

#1  A defense attorney for Davis, Paul Bergrin, said he wanted court members to see Abu Ghraib for themselves, the Reuters news agency reported. "We want the court members to smell the fecal matter and the urine that service members who worked inside that prison and who are accused in this case had to live with," he said.

Because the smell of shit and piss drives people to cruelty. That's why Graner was a wife-beater in the states, why he was doing things like putting pepper spray in people's coffee -- his septic tank kept backing up.

The smell of shit and piss is why England disobeyed direct order and kept screwing around, no doubt.
Posted by: Robert Crawford   2004-06-21 9:08:41 AM  

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