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UN inspectors: Saddam shipped out WMD before war and after |
2004-06-11 |
The United Nations has determined that Saddam Hussein shipped weapons of mass destruction components as well as medium-range ballistic missiles before, during and after the U.S.-led war against Iraq in 2003. The UN Monitoring, Verification and Inspection Commission briefed the Security Council on new findings that could help trace the whereabouts of Saddam’s missile and WMD program. The briefing contained satellite photographs that demonstrated the speed with which Saddam dismantled his missile and WMD sites before and during the war. Council members were shown photographs of a ballistic missile site outside Baghdad in May 2003, and then saw a satellite image of the same location in February 2004, in which facilities had disappeared. From the UN no less. Where is Dan Rather on this? |
Posted by:whitecollar redneck |
#4 Not to mention being a slacker who's 3.5 months late to the thread, lol! |
Posted by: .com 2004-09-28 8:05:24 PM |
#3 troll with spelling issues - Aisle 2 |
Posted by: Frank G 2004-09-28 8:02:10 PM |
#2 Regarding http://www.worldtribune.com/worldtribune/breaking_1.html and the many republications of it that have appeared on the web. Here are some comments about _The World Tribune_: http://newyorker.com/talk/content/?030908ta_talk_mcgrath The World Tribune article is supposed to be based on this report which you can read for yourself: http://www.un.org/Depts/unmovic/new/documents/quarterly_reports/s-2004-435.pdf The Headline in the World Tribune Article reads: UN inspectors: Saddam shipped out WMD before war and after and the first paragraph says: The United Nations has determined that Saddam Hussein shipped weapons of mass destruction components as well as medium-range ballistic missiles before, during and after the U.S.-led war against Iraq in 2003. But there isn't anything in the article to support the notion that Saddam Hussein exported anything prior, during, or after the 2003 invasion of Iraq. Even more damning, there isn't anything to support that paragraph in the UNMOVIC report cited by the Tribune as the source for that information. For instance, according to the very article: Council members were shown photographs of a ballistic missile site outside Baghdad in May 2003, and then saw a satellite image of the same location in February 2004, in which facilities had disappeared. By May, 2003 Saddam Hussein had been deposed. Note the missile site was still intact at that time. It was dismantled some time between then and February, 2004. Saddam Hussein was not in control of Iraq during that period of time. The United States and UK were. Please note also that UNMOVIC must rely on satellite data because the United States will not allow inspectors back in on the ground. Here's another gem: "The removal of these materials from Iraq raises concerns with regard to proliferation risks," Perricos told the council. Perricos also reported that inspectors found Iraqi WMD and missile components shipped abroad that still contained UN inspection tags. Note _still contained UN inspection tags_. This refers to material that had been declared to UNMOVIC and which UNMOVIC had inventoried and tagged. The proliferation in question has taken place since (and one might argue BECAUSE) we threw UNMOVIC out of Iraq and have not let them back in. Also, the UNMOVIC report does NOT refer to 'WMD and missile' components. Continuing: UNMOVIC acting executive chairman Demetrius Perricos told the council on June 9 that "the only controls at the borders are for the weight of the scrap metal, and to check whether there are any explosive or radioactive materials within the scrap," Middle East Newsline reported. Note that the 'proliferation' in question consists of scrap sales to junkyards. These materials are being sold for scrap. I hope you remember that UNMOVIC supervised the dismantling and destruction of the Al Sammouds. No one is claiming that any of these material are useable. But they were inventoried as part of the UNMOVIC program and the United States is allowing that material to be exported. Perhaps by Haliburton and Bechtel? In April, [2004, FF] International Atomic Energy Agency director-general Mohammed El Baradei said material from Iraqi nuclear facilities were being smuggled out of the country. Again, WE were in charge in Iraq in 2004 and El Baradei was referring to the removal by the United States of material that the IAEA had secured and inventoried. People who were reading newspapers back in April are already aware that the IAEA lodged a protest against the United States for smuggling the material out of Iraq. There are a few comments in the Tribune article about fermenters. The word 'fermenter' does not appear in the report the Tribune cites as its source. There are lots of comments in the UNMOVIC report about 'dual use items and materials'. These might include fermenters. I have no doubt that there were fermenters in Iraq, and that there still are fermenters in Iraq. *I* have fermenters in my basement. Zymurgists use fermenters all the time. All fermenters are 'dual use', in fact 'multi use' as you can ferment lots of different things in them. A hundred years ago Poncho Villa used fermenters (canteens) to produce botulinum toxin. We threw UNMOVIC out of Iraq and have not allowed them back in. The ability fo UNMOVIC to continue its work is being compromised by the United States. WE are allowing the materials UNMOVIC has inventoried to be sold for scrap. UNMOVIC is a bit more diplomatic as to how they are going about saying it but that is the clear implication of the report. |
Posted by: Fred Fighter 2004-09-28 7:47:54 PM |
#1 See?! This proves that there were no WMD when we attacked. Bush lied... Oh, phooey. It's hard to think like an Idiotarian. |
Posted by: jackal 2004-06-11 10:07:08 PM |