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Iraq-Jordan
A letter from one of the USA’s Super Heroes
2004-05-24
The title does not even do this man and his Marines justice.
I feel it is almost time to defend our Military with all means possible. I am so sick of the left and thier politics. Islamo Nazi’s, meet your paradise provider!!

EFL -Fred
E-mail from Dave - May 22, 04

Dad -

You probably heard that Mike was wounded this week. We take rockets and mortars from time to time and he got caught outside when a rocket came in. He was lucky as he only got hit with some shrapnel in the back of the head. Grateful that it was only a flesh wound. He was medivaced to a surgical unit. I got word that he was going to be medevaced to the surgical unit on my camp and went by that evening looking for him only to find out he went to a different treatment facility. They put some staples in his head and he hopped a helo to return to his camp and was back at work that night... In fact, I actually saw him yesterday as I had to go to his position for some business. It is always a quietly thankful moment when you see a guy who has been wounded or who you think was wounded and he turns out to be ok. Mike was actually embarrassed about the whole thing and shrugged off any mention of it as he feels like he is not "doing enough" right now. We only were able to talk for a short time and I swear that within a few minutes I had forgotten about the whole thing until we shook hands when I had to go. He turned to leave and I saw the zipper of staples on the back of his head. He was going back to work.

You would be very proud of the Marines as they have been able to switch gears from intense offensive operations back to what we call "stability operations." Stability operations simply translates to getting out into the countryside and teaching Iraqi Police and soldiers how to do their jobs. ... As I have shared with you over the past 15 months or so, it is hard to imagine trying to establish a police force or "national guard" (the equivalent of what we are working with) out of a population that has never even seen such entities as we understand them. If you said National Guard in Missouri, most people would think "the guys who show up when there is a flood, blizzard or tornado to help people." Or maybe after 9/11, that guy at the drug store who left for Iraq for a year as part of an engineer unit. Here, they simply have no paradigm of what such a force is. We have to sit down and go over the most basic principles of protecting the people by being there to help when there is a crisis on one hand and getting out on night ambush to keep the muj out of the village on the other. ... I have heard a lot of false exaggeration about the fact that the Iraqi Army would not stand and fight with the Marines in Falluja or the Army in Baghdad.

Nonsense. I could tell you stories of individual heroics of Iraqi soldiers. One specific example is of an Iraqi SgtMaj who came into our lines during the first days of fighting in Falluja. He made his way through the mujahadeen and risked being killed by us to tell us that he was concerned about the ICDC (Iraqi Civil Defense Corps) armory in town. ... Honestly, I would have thought that they had already done it as the police stations and every other good piece of ground seemed to be occupied by the muj by that time. In short, he wanted to let us know that he was going back into the town to get the weapons. The Marines asked him if he wanted us to help. No. He only wanted us to take the weapons from him when he came back through. This guy took a couple young Iraqi soldiers with a truck and drove back through our lines into the hornets nest of Falluja. He went to the armory, emptied the weapons and ammo stored there and brought it back out through the fighting to us. We expected him to want to stay with us or to move on to Baghdad or some other safe area. He refused and stated that he was going back into the city as that was where his duty was. Not a coward by even the most cynical standard.

We had a group that showed up shortly thereafter. You have probably heard about them as they came out of Baghdad and on the way were ambushed a couple of times. By the time they made it here only 200 of 700 were in their ranks. I know that the public story is that they folded after a couple of days of fighting and disintegrated. They actually made it through three days of fighting. Not just taking a few rounds, they held through accurate machine gun fire, mortars and multiple assaults. They also moved forward and occupied positions on the Marines’ flanks. After three days, we pulled them out. The Marines will tell you that they did a hell of a job.

The Marine Corps has been around for 230 years. We have many battles and history under our belts that instills in the Marines a profound sense of duty and tradition. ... The Iraqis had none of this going into Falluja. In fact they had and continue to have just the opposite. ... For decades, Sadaam played one neighbor against another, one tribe against another, one sect of Islam against another and one race against another. ... Here if you join the police or the army, you are eventually approached by the terrorists and threatened. If they think you are a leader, they tell you that they will kill you and your family. The orders are simple, look the other way when you are on duty and leave when the terrorist show up. ... Imagine that young guy who joins the ICDC or police. He may be ... an idealist when he gets out of our initial training but when he shows up to his unit, the muj have already infiltrated it and immediately make it clear that there is no hope of survival if he does not do exactly what they say. For good measure and effect, they regularly assassinate Iraqi policemen and soldiers just to make it clear that they will kill them on a whim. ... Without the tradition and culture of the Marine Corps and constantly thinking that their very presence next to us may get their families killed, I am amazed they made it for an hour much less than three days. We decided to pull them because this place needs young patriots. It does not need us to put them into a position where they will be ground down in intense combat or maybe to be killed when it is over. Hopefully they can be a nucleus for tomorrow’s leaders...

We are back at it with the police and ICDC. With us are retired police officers from the US and other civilians who are trying to contribute. Police forces back in California are sending us equipment and expertise on training. The lesson that we have learned for this iteration is for us to focus first and foremost on our true strength and that is the character and decency of our Marines. ... If we demonstrate the best aspects of the Marines who they see every day, we are giving the young Iraqi men something that can never be taken from them. They are seeing the best part of a free people. Hopefully the lights will go on.

The enemy is confused right now. He goes to bed convinced he is going to win because he watches the Al Jazeera and then the US media and believes that we are a weak willed people who can be terrorized and who have a penchant for self-loathing. Then, he wakes up and he comes across a coalition check point and he sees a young Soldier or Marine who stands there like a rock and exudes strength and conviction. The same terrorist who was in the mosque the night before in a frenzy is now subjugated by the presence of a guy who does not match up with what he has been told and sees on TV. It must be confusing as all get out. Every day, he will continue to see in three dimensions the best that our society has to offer and their is no amount of sound bites that will trump that in the end.

In another email, I will share with you what I think is going to happen this summer. It will be a tough pull. However, we are prepared. ... I will close with something that was on my mind this morning when I punished myself by watching CBS news. I saw the anchor come on and just before he spoke, I told my rack mate "Lets see what the opening line is going to be...." Sure enough before he said anything else, he said "It just keeps getting worse and worse...." Yes, he was talking about Iraq. Honest to God we laughed at him. I’m not kidding. It is getting to the point where the Marines are getting past their anger at the talking heads and are laughing. To really get a rise out of them, requires a retired military officer who betrays his oath and stokes the fear mongering.

Do you remember when I came back last fall and people would ask about WMD and I would say that I did not care if we ever found any? The day we found the mass grave is vivid to me still. ... Very quickly people came from miles and miles away. We stood and watched the family members digging up bones and clutching remains as they sat in the dirt, rocked back and forth and cried. ... Every single body had its hands and feet wired together with ROMEX. Each skull had a bullet hole in it except for a few that were smashed with a club or rifle butt. There were clearly men but also women and children. The grave never made the news as there were no media with us and it was small by Iraq standards. One detail that I found particularly outrageous was that the assassins left the identifications on the bodies as if they were so arrogant that it never occured that someday, someone would dig up the bodies and hold them accountable. I will never forget it... We liberated a people from a regime that will go down in history as one of the most brutal ever. That would be enough.

However, we are now in a life and death struggle with an enemy who wants nothing more for us to leave so that they can bring their own brand of terror to the same people. Our biggest failings have been that, as a coalition, we have not been able to overcome our own-ham handed actions and horrible mistakes/crimes and simply convince the Iraqi people that we do in fact want to leave them a free and prosperous country where there is hope. The most successful way to do that is to continue to go out and show them every day and not to cut and run. ... Inside this country right now, there are extremists who have set up courts where in one room, they try Iraqis and in the next they kill them minutes later. Not fantasy - reality. Again, the death sentence? Accepting payment for damage we have done in fighting or in an accident. Taking a job working on a coalition base. Having a brother who has done his job in the police or ICDC... Are people so naive as to think that if we left, things would get better? The country would implode and thousands of people would be killed. ... I understand that some people are simply frightened by the violence - for good reason. ... The fact that we are not popular does not change our moral obligation....
Love,

Dave
Posted by:Long Hair Republican

#17  A fast ship going in harm's way. Godspeed.
Posted by: RWV   2004-05-24 9:11:11 PM  

#16  RWV - my office window faces the SD Bay - watched the Stennis Carrier group depart for the Persian Gulf this AM - beautiful....
Posted by: Frank G   2004-05-24 3:37:02 PM  

#15  Anti-Bush propaganda by posters like ManBitesDog Dog Bites Troll will be showing up rather frequently on RB as the election draws closer.

Posted by: ex-lib   2004-05-24 3:18:49 PM  

#14  DBT, WTF does your comment have to do with this article? Do you just look for a random article from which to launch your diatribe? Go post on the DU where like-minded folks lurk in their own alternate reality.

As to this article, I live in San Diego and see the Marine Corps Recruit Depot turn out companies of men like this every other week. With Miramar MCAS and Camp Pendleton nearby, we tend to take Marines for granted and only occasionally reflect on what they truly are, the pride of the nation and the ones who stand between us and the monsters that lurk beyond our borders.

As long as there are US Marines, trolls like DBT will be able to spew their venom without consequence. Without the Marines, DBT wouldn't live out the week.
Posted by: RWV   2004-05-24 12:51:54 PM  

#13  YS - I think he already dealt whith this Email last week, and he is gone for two weeks now.
Posted by: BigEd   2004-05-24 12:12:11 PM  

#12  can someone see this email gets to Hugh Hewitt?
Posted by: Yosemite Sam   2004-05-24 10:00:05 AM  

#11  Your mentality: if in doubt - and you are!!! - then deny.

BTW, troll, you don't get to tell me what I think or why. You are a delusional idiot for presuming that kind of power and control. Any cow-college freshman should know better. Take your drunken fantasies somewhere else, you semi-literate pretender.
Posted by: Atomic Conspiracy   2004-05-24 8:46:44 AM  

#10  Troll, why lie about my post when it is right there for all to see? What does it say about support for GWB's Iraq policy? Nothing, one way or the other, it says that these are secular countries that we support through our military alliances.
You might do well to start comprehending the English language in any context. It's one thing to be an arrogant lying authoritarian trying to put words in my mouth, quite something else to be laughably stupid about it.
Posted by: Atomic Conspiracy   2004-05-24 8:41:15 AM  

#9  Maj Dave drips class. I'll spend some time carefully reading his account of Fallujah.

The troll is just a drip. Unworthy.
Posted by: .com   2004-05-24 2:58:29 AM  

#8  (WouldGodthatIhada)Dog (thatwould) bite trolls,
how dare you come on this thread with your lies!
And you're not too bright, as usual.
All the countries in the world are "secular" except for the ones that call themselves "Islamic."
Posted by: Jen   2004-05-24 2:47:33 AM  

#7  AC:
You would do well to read some English language media sources in the "staunch US allies." Iraqi support for GWB "nation-building" is now negligible. And Americans know what a bill-of-goods looks like. Watch today's dead-duck presidential speech. GWB will trumpet the forthcoming jihad-ballot as a victory for the forces of "freedom." A cleric controlled election in Iraq can have only one victor: the Iran component of the "axis of evil." Go down with the Oil-Patch ship, like a true fanatic. But have some dignity, and cease support for suicidal rules-of-engagement that prohibit disproportionate retaliation against the koranimals who plant Road Side Bombs to the delight of local savages. As for the "Mahdi Army", Bush-Powell-Bremer allowed those armed pigs exclusive patrol zones in Baghdad, until the inevitable occurred. What geniuses! Your mentality: if in doubt - and you are!!! - then deny.
Posted by: Dog Bites Trolls   2004-05-24 2:44:05 AM  

#6  Obviously, troll-biter, you define "secular" as anyone George Bush opposes. By more common and rational standards, South Korea, Taiwan, Israel, Turkey, and myriad other staunch US allies are secular states and all have the backing of the current administration in their long-standing alliances.

Objectively, only creation of a Secular Iraq will enhance American security.

My goodness, who needs gods when you are here to hand down divine wisdom such as this? Even if your omniscient pronouncment is valid, how do you propose to create a "secular" Iraq? Restore Saddam Hussein, perhaps? We could kill off the Islamo-loon Mehdi army, I guess. Oh, wait a minute....
Posted by: Atomic Conspiracy   2004-05-24 1:31:53 AM  

#5  Dang, I need to hear stuff like this more often. It's so easy to start believing the Big Lie and give up hope. Then you go to, "Kill 'em all!" I hate Islam, but I also forget that some of the muslim individuals I have known were some of the decent people I have met. These things are hard to reconcile. Without info like Dave's, it's easy to fall Dog Bites Trolls' thinking. (WTF?!?)

Well, maybe not that far.
Posted by: scott   2004-05-24 1:27:12 AM  

#4  Dear "right minded people":

Put up or shut up: name a single Secular ally that GWB has ever backed on the face of this Wahabi/Khomeni/Ikhwani/Jesse Jackson/Pat Robertson/Falwell/JP2 polluted earth.

Objectively, only creation of a Secular Iraq will enhance American security. "Faith based" Bush hates Seculars, globally.

Could it be that the noisy minority who posts here are: narrow minded?

Tomorrow, GWB will deliver a "stay the course" speech on his alliances with Islamofascist garbage in Iraq. Respect the 700+ dead American troops, by pressuring abandonment of "faith based" imbecility.
Posted by: Dog Bites Trolls   2004-05-24 1:15:00 AM  

#3  This Marine Dave is a typical hard-working honorable sort we have over there, and this is a powerful insight into what our folks are thinking.

Anybody with more than noodles between the ears should be greatful we have guys like this.
Posted by: BigEd   2004-05-24 12:45:39 AM  

#2  Wow, I'm about to cry--this email is from such a fine, upstanding and decent man.
I'm so proud of him and all the thousands of soldiers we have over there who are just like him.
Men (and women) like Dave are what our military is all about and what OIF is about, not those 7 trailer-trash losers who humiliated prisoners in Abu Ghraib.
Bless you for posting this, Long Hair Republican--it made my night and maybe my week!
Posted by: Jen   2004-05-24 12:39:31 AM  

#1  One thing that I fail to mention is Hugh Hewitt. The man provides a lot of information about our Military, including this Marines.
He also provides a plethora of kick booty blogs for Right minded people.
www.hughhewitt.com
The man is a great American. I failed to give him a long distance high five.
Posted by: Long Hair Republican   2004-05-24 12:23:14 AM  

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