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| LA Times Editor Carroll says Fox misleads! |
| 2004-05-09 |
| The media industry has been infested by the rise of pseudo-journalists who go against journalism's long tradition to serve the public with accurate information, Los Angeles Times Editor John S. Carroll told a packed room in the Gerlinger Lounge on Thursday. Carroll delivered the annual Ruhl Lecture, titled "The Wolf in Reporter's Clothing: The Rise of Pseudo-Journalism in America." The lecture was sponsored by the School of Journalism and Communication. "All over the country there are offices that look like newsrooms and there are people in those offices that look for all the world just like journalists, but they are not practicing journalism," he said. "They regard the audience with a cold cynicism. They are practicing something I call a pseudo-journalism, and they view their audience as something to be manipulated." In a scathing critique of Fox News and some talk show hosts, such as Bill O'Reilly, Carroll said they were a "different breed of journalists" who misled their audience while claiming to inform them. He said they did not fit into the long legacy of journalists who got their facts right and respected and cared for their audiences. Talk about the biggest HYPOCRITE! The times is strewn with articles that have questionable content and in some cases outright lies! Remember the ‘news’ about some women who claimed Arnold grouped them TEN years ago! That story ‘broke’ right before the election! And the LA LA Times polls that had Bustamante and Arnold ‘Neck and neck’ going into the election! This @$$hat couldn’t find the truth if it were standing in front of him. At least the kids in school got a look at what ‘yellow journalism’ look like. I bet he loves the journalistic integrity of Al Jazera and Pravda! |
| Posted by:Cyber Sarge |
| #15 FOX: central organ of Reverend Moon-Bush's robot army. "Islam is peace. Islam is peace. Islam is peace. Shiites love Americans. Shiites love Americans. Shiites love Americans. Crush Howard Stern. Crush Howard Stern. Crush Howard Stern." |
| Posted by: Man Bites Dog TROLL 2004-05-09 3:48:55 PM |
| #14 ..(And Jennings, and Rather, and the others) freely mix their 'commentary' (or the DNC 'talking points') in with the news without attributing which is which. I first noticed a very long time ago that Peter Jennings had a tendency to do that sort of thing. Needless to say, I don't watch ABC News anymore, at least not when he's "reporting" it. |
| Posted by: Bomb-a-rama 2004-05-09 10:32:22 PM |
#13 "All over the country there are offices that look like newsrooms and there are people in those offices that look for all the world just like journalists, but they are not practicing journalism,"And prime examples can be found at 202 West 1st Street in Los Angeles. |
| Posted by: Old Grouch 2004-05-09 10:06:06 PM |
| #12 Bomb, Bill O'Reilly tells people that he is giving 'commentary' Carroll (And Jennings, and Rather, and the others) freely mix their 'commentary' (or the DNC 'talking points') in with the news without attributing which is which. |
| Posted by: CrazyFool 2004-05-09 7:39:52 PM |
| #11 In a scathing critique of Fox News and some talk show hosts, such as Bill O'Reilly, Carroll said they were a "different breed of journalists" who misled their audience while claiming to inform them. Isn't this known as the pot calling the kettle black? |
| Posted by: Bomb-a-rama 2004-05-09 6:02:01 PM |
| #10 MBD - give it a rest, will ya'? You give fucking idiots a bad name. |
| Posted by: Barbara Skolaut 2004-05-09 4:11:11 PM |
| #9 [Troll droppings deleted] |
| Posted by: Man Bites Dog TROLL 2004-05-09 3:48:55 PM |
| #8 THE L.A. DAVIS TIMES LOST OVER 15,000 SUBSCRIBERS OVER THAT FIASCO WITH ARNOLD.CARROL FLUBBED HIS WAY THROUGH TRYING TO EXPLAIN THAT ONE AWAY AND WAS NOT CONVINCiNG AT ALL,THE LIAR. |
| Posted by: rich woods 2004-05-09 3:27:34 PM |
| #7 Go Les! |
| Posted by: J Fever MD 2004-05-09 1:43:41 PM |
| #6 I posted this in the comments section of the story. It has to be reviewed by a 'comments editor' before it gets posted. Gee, I wonder if it will? : 'I'm sure the robber-barons of the past were upset when their monopolies were broken, too. Well, get ready for more of that thar newfangled Fox news, internet reporting, blogs, etc...Mr. Carroll. Sadly, this report about Carroll doesn't mention WHY there is a vastly successful market for so-called 'pseudo-journalism'. Maybe it's because Mr. Carroll and his ilk have badly mismanaged their stewardship of 'real journalism'? I'll give you some free advice, Mr. Carroll. These smug proclamations about how you (and CNN and NYT et. al.) are the 'real' journalists, while the newer upstarts are not, is part of the reason why the general population distrusts you. The 'real journos' have made some real whopping mistakes, but you don't hear the corrections trumpeted as loudly as the false headlines, do you Mr. Carroll? Those misleading stories also tend to tilt one way, politically. Ever wonder why that is? Have you ever been intellectually curious enough to discover why the 'real journos' are mostly from one party, and overwhelmingly vote for one particular party, Mr. Carroll? This little something called the Internet is going to change everything in your 'profession', Mr. Carroll. It's already started to...' |
| Posted by: Les Nessman 2004-05-09 1:16:12 PM |
| #5 Carroll cited a study released last year that showed Americans had three main misconceptions about Iraq: That weapons of mass destruction had been found, a connection between al-Qaeda and Iraq had been demonstrated and that the world approved of U.S intervention in Iraq. Two of those are true, and for the third -- "the opinions of worthless people are worthless". |
| Posted by: Robert Crawford 2004-05-09 11:45:31 AM |
| #4 When I stopped consuming the offal pumped out by the leftists' ABCNBCCBSPBSAPNYTIMESDCPOSTLATIMESREUTERSBBC old media propaganda machine and turned for NEWS and !!!COMMENT labeled as COMMENT!!! to the FNC and the Washington Times and the myriad sources accessed via the new electronic medium, I knew objective !!!NEWS!!! and !!!COMMENT labeled as COMMENT!!! for the first time. AMERICANS as a people are no longer left with no choice but to be misinformed, disinformed, uninformed and lied to by marxist democrat party shitmongers including danny rather and penis jennings. Today, I AM INFORMED!!! |
| Posted by: Garrison 2004-05-09 11:29:56 AM |
| #3 Any suprise this is occuring at a Leftish University? Carroll cited a study released last year that showed Americans had three main misconceptions about Iraq: That weapons of mass destruction had been found, a connection between al-Qaeda and Iraq had been demonstrated and that the world approved of U.S intervention in Iraq. He said 80 percent of people who primarily got their news from Fox believed at least one of the misconceptions. He said the figure was more than 57 percentage points higher than people who get their news from public news broadcasting. "How in the world could Fox have left its listeners so deeply in the dark?" Carroll asked. He added that a difference exists between journalism and propaganda. Anyone know what study he is quoting? Was it a LALA Poll? |
| Posted by: CrazyFool 2004-05-09 11:18:56 AM |
| #2 Carroll doesn't believe it - he can't after the way his paper tried to re-elect Gray Davis. I fwd'd this to Patterico - he'll do a nip-n-tuck on it. He lives for reaming the LA Dog-trainer |
| Posted by: Frank G 2004-05-09 11:13:56 AM |
| #1 When I read this, I thought "What a lying sack of shit." I couldn't even get all the way through, I was so disgusted. Scary thing is, I think he believes this crap. THAT'S why I don't trust the "professional" journalists. I bet he loves the journalistic integrity of Al Jazera and PravdaOf course he does; the LA Times is just a West Coast version of them. |
| Posted by: Barbara Skolaut 2004-05-09 10:54:46 AM |