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Six Reasons Why All the Muslim Rulers Are Murtad
2004-04-20
1. They do not fulfil the Pillars of Tawheed.

2. They ridicule the deen of Allah (swt) and his commands.

3. Alliance with the Mushriks and Kuffar

4. They embrace the deen of Democracy

5. They commit shirk by committing sarf and ’ataf

6. They legislate kufr constitutions
This is pretty bare. There's no context, so it's confusing. So here's a bit more extracted, just to clarify things...
We worship Allah [God] (swt) [(cheese and crackers)]by making takfeer [bean soup] - declaring a person to be Kafir [a midget].
"We worship God by declaring that other people don't."
At-Takfeer [bean soup] is an obligation upon all Muslims. Those who do not make takfeer [bean soup] are Mushriks [walrus snouts] as the first pillar of Tawheed [ladies' underwear] requires one to make takfeer [bean soup] by declaring those who Allah [God] calls Kafir [a midget] to be Kafir [a midget]. Those who do not make takfeer [bean soup] upon those who Allah [God] does are ridiculing Allah [God] (swt) [(cheese and crackers)] and his kalaam [armpit]. The one who does not make takfer [bean sop] is making takdheeb (disbelief) in Allah [God]. Takdheeb (disbelief) is opposite to Tasdeeq [wheel bearings], which is to believe in Allah with certainty.
Got all that? How's your turban sit now?
How does a person disbelieve in Allah [God] by not declaring the one who Allah [God] calls a Kafir [a midget] to be kafir [a midget]?
I dunno. How does he?
Simply because when we believe in Allah [God], we do not just believe in his existence, but also his words. If he declares the Jews and the Christians to be Kafir [a midget] and those who ridicule, mock, implement kufr [midget] law to be in the same category, we become disbelievers by not calling them Kafir [a midget] as the prerequisite for believing in Allah [God] is to believe in his words, names, attributes, actions etc.
"Since we're right, never been wrong, that's the way it is..."
We MUST make Takfeer [bean soup] in order to worship Allah [God] and purify our Aqeedah [pickled beets]. To say the rulers of Muslim countries are not kafir [a midget] has serious implications. It means that any person can change their deen [loose trousers, such as worn by M.C. Hammer], kill Muslims, ridicule Allah [God], his messenger, the Muslims, the 'Ulema [eleven guys with turbans], the Mujaahideen [tough guys with turbans] and still remain Muslim; this means there is no boundaries of kufr [midgetry], a person can do whatever they want and never become Kafir [a midget].
By Jove [Allah], I think he's got it! "A person can do whatever they want..." What a marvelous idea!
It also means that we must have Wala [farting contests] with them, we must defend them, protect them and obey them. Clearly, beyond doubt, all the rulers of Muslim countries are Kafir Murtad [midgets with curly-toed slippers]. In order to purify our 'Aqeedah [pickled beets] and Tawheed [bean soup], we must declare them Kafir [a midget] or we too may fall under the banner of kufr [midgetry].
Posted by:Mike Sylwester

#18  'Murtad' - is that anything like Marklar.
Posted by: A Jackson   2004-04-20 11:59:03 PM  

#17  how come there no hiaku in korun
Posted by: HalfEmpty   2004-04-20 8:40:43 PM  

#16  This sounds like reaally bad sci-fi.

"Fraz, Mahmoud! You know it is shirk to covet the sacred Fiznack of Ebnzir! Now we must buzit the deen, or the Blens of Morglar will karf us with zim-zim!"
Posted by: Cthulhu Akbar   2004-04-20 3:12:38 PM  

#15  I'll stick with the bean soup.
Posted by: Fred   2004-04-20 2:23:50 PM  

#14  shirk -- apostasy
tawheed -- the oneness of Allah
deen -- belief ("spirit of belief" might be better)
takfeer -- denouncing someone as a kafir. "excommunicating"
As-Sarf is where sorcery is used to make someone, who is liked, become hated.
Al-Ataf is where sorcery is used to make someone, who is disliked, be liked.
tasdeeq -- affirmation
takdheeb -- disbelief, declaring something that is agreed upon to be false, denial
aqeedah -- The firm creed that one's heart is fixed upon without any wavering or doubt. It excludes any supposition, doubt or suspicion.

I used Google to put this together. There is a lot of thoughtcrime in Wahhabism. Use at your own discretion, kafir.
Posted by: 11A5S   2004-04-20 1:53:07 PM  

#13  The Gettysburg address, Yeshivash

YESHIVISH TRANSLATION
Be'erech a yoivel and a half ago, the meyasdim shtelled avek on this makom a naiya malchus with the kavana that no one should have bailus over their chaver, and on this yesoid that everyone has the zelba zchusim. We're holding by a geferliche machloikes being machria if this medina, or an andere medina made in the same oifen and with the same machshovos, can have a kiyum. We are all mitztaref on the daled amos where a chalois of that machloikes happened in order to be mechabed the soldiers who dinged zich with each other. We are here to be koiveia chotsh a chelek of that karka as a kever for the bekavodike soldiers who were moiser nefesh and were niftar to give a chiyus to our nation. Yashrus is mechayev us to do this... Lemaise, hagam the velt won't be goires or machshiv what we speak out here, it's zicher not shayach for them to forget what they tued uf here. We are mechuyav to be meshabed ourselves to the melocha in which these soldiers made a haschala--that vibalt they were moiser nefesh for this eisek, we must be mamash torud in it--that we are all mekabel on ourselves to be moisif on their peula so that their maisim should not be a bracha levatulla-- that Hashem should give the gantze oilam a naiya bren for cheirus-- that a nation that shtams by the oilam, by the oilam, by the oilam, will blaib fest ahd oilam.

As an example
"that Hashem(God) should give the gantze oilam (the whole world) a naiya bren ( a new "burn" IE a new birth) for cheirus (freedom)"

Posted by: Liberalhawk   2004-04-20 1:26:11 PM  

#12  actually the apparently bizarre mixture of English and Arabic makes sense for a discussion of Muslim law/theology (though this particular discussion is wahabi-jihadi-loony and not approved by all Muslims)

In discussions of a non-western religious legal tradition, there are inevitably phrases that dont translate well. Example - "While I am sure the Orthodox will never sanction gay unions, I fully expect that the Conservatives will Posek that some form of gay union is acceptable, but wont consider it I>Kiddushin
and to get there they'll have to drash the Tanaach in ways that the Orthodox would not consider Kosher. .

And that would be from a purely English speaking background. And Im NOT using some of the more technical terms, which I cant recall off the top of my head. AMong the ultraorthodox, who tend to come from a Yiddish speaking background, they tend to discourse on Jewish legal matters in whats called "Yeshivash" - probably about 30% Hebrew/Aramaic legal terms, about 30% yiddish, and the rest English. Utterly incomrehensible, I find it.
Posted by: Liberalhawk   2004-04-20 1:19:15 PM  

#11  declaring a person to be Kafir

KAFIR? Liquefied yogurt?

Is that what happened to those jokers fiddling with rocket launchers when the Apache Helecopter blew them away?
Posted by: Anonymous4052   2004-04-20 12:56:15 PM  

#10  A glossary for us bean-eating midgets with funny pants:

SAW Acronym for Arabic "Salla Allahu alaihi Wa Sallam". It means "peace be upon him", but it is used when referring to Prophet Muhammad(SAW).

SWT This is the Acronym for "Subhanahu wa ta'ala" meaning "Allah is pure of having partners and He is exalted from having a son."

("swt" explains a bit about the weird sexual hangups of that whole cult)

http://www.irshad.org/glossary.php
Posted by: Carl in N.H   2004-04-20 12:43:25 PM  

#9  This is the thanks we get from Houndouras for allowing in their illegal immigrants and allowing them to send money back home to prop us that 3rd world shithole. Same for Mexico which never even sent troops or help to Iraq and undermined us in the UN on Iraq votes.
Posted by: Anonymous4353   2004-04-20 10:40:12 AM  

#8  Farting contest - a Muslim sacrament? I must convert.
Posted by: Howard UK   2004-04-20 9:10:29 AM  

#7  My posting ended with the sixth item. Everything after that was added by someone else.
Posted by: Mike Sylwester   2004-04-20 9:01:48 AM  

#6  They commit shirk by committing sarf and ’ataf

I let a massive sarf yesterday. I really should avoid refried beans for lunch. And after I had some asparagus for dinner my 'ataf had the oddest smell...
Posted by: Robert Crawford   2004-04-20 8:28:17 AM  

#5  They could have added a 7th crime of the Muslim rulers, namely, they 'consume mass quantities' and 'enjoy the moons of mikzor'.
Posted by: mhw   2004-04-20 8:11:04 AM  

#4  In case you get the 'shirks'...

The Jihad's's Fundamentalist Phrasebook
Posted by: Howard UK   2004-04-20 8:01:40 AM  

#3  They do not fulfil the Pillars of Tawheed...

Whoa, I'll have some of what's in his hookah!

I think I might've sarfed at the weekend, but it was all a bit hazy after the seventh pint. I've got the chafing, sure enough.
Posted by: Bulldog   2004-04-20 7:41:34 AM  

#2  They commit shirk by committing sarf and ’ataf

Good old Al-Muhajiroun. Ha ha ha!! Whey don't they just write the whole lot in arabic/urdu-whatever - I feel like I'm being goaded. I know what a kufr is cos I am one, apparently.

Is that 'shirk' as in 'to shirk one's responsibilities' ?

What are 'sarf and ataf'? sex acts?
Posted by: Howard UK   2004-04-20 4:34:19 AM  

#1  WTF is this. Forgery attempt? Look at the name...
Posted by: OldSpook   2004-04-20 1:09:20 AM  

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