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Iraq-Jordan
U.S. Troops, Militiamen Clash Near Kufa
2004-04-16
Iraq's top Shiite cleric warned the U.S. military against entering the holy cities of Karbala and Najaf as U.S. troops clashed with Shiite militiamen on Friday. Wanted Shiite leader Muqtada al-Sadr said negotiations in his standoff with the United States were near collapse.
Gee. Golly. We can't go in. And the negotiations are near collapse. Oh, what shall we do? I guess we'll just have to flatten the entire city, sell its inhabitants into slavery in Sudan, and sow the ground with salt.
Al-Sadr militiamen attacked American soldiers outside the city of Kufa, neighboring Najaf. During clashes Friday, large explosions were seen by the river in a sparsely populated area on the edge of Kufa. Five civilians caught in the crossfire were killed and 14 wounded, hospital officials said.
Golly. Wonder how they managed to get caught in the crossfire? Probably they were standing in front of the Americans to protect them, huh?
Some 2,500 U.S. soldiers are deployed outside Najaf vowing to kill or capture al-Sadr and dismantle his al-Mahdi Army militia. Iraq's top Shiite cleric, Grand Ayatollah Ali al-Husseini al-Sistani, warned of a strong Shiite response if U.S. forces enter the holy cities of Najaf or Karbala to capture al-Sadr. The two cities are a "red line," Mahdi al-Karbala'i, al-Sistani's representative in Karbala, said during a sermon. "We are calling for peaceful solutions, but if the coalition forces are to cross the red line, then will take a different stronger position." Al-Sistani, a moderate who has opposed anti-U.S. violence, holds enormous influence among Iraq's Shiite majority.
Seems like he's also burning a lot of the slack we've been cutting him...
Al-Sadr slipped out of Najaf to Kufa in the dead of night, disguised as a hooker and delivered the Friday prayer sermon at the main mosque. "I am ready to meet martyrdom for the sake of Iraq," al-Sadr said, speaking with a white wedding dress coffin shroud over his shoulders — a symbol of his sexual availability readiness to die. A crowd of worshippers chanted his name.
"Ta-ter! Ta-ter! Ta-ter!"
An al-Sadr spokesman said negotiations that Iraqi politicians have been mediating between the Americans and al-Sadr were close to collapse. "I believe that the mediation will not continue for a long. They will reach a dead end today or tomorrow. There are no results from these negotiations and these negotiations could collapse," said Sheik Fuad al-Tarafi. He said that according to the mediators, the Americans had made demands that were "impossible to fulfill," apparently that al-Sadr be handed over.
Posted by:Fred

#6  I guess we'll just have to flatten the entire city, sell its inhabitants into slavery in Sudan, and sow the ground with salt.

You left out the part about, "scorched earth."

Tell the clerics (including Sistani) that the city will loses its 'holiness' status in 48 hours unless the militia and Sadr surrender.

Ding, ding ding ... We have a winner!

Only a moron would let this Mahdi army try to slip back into society as a political party.

Sigh, then I guess we'll just have to kill them all.



Posted by: Zenster   2004-04-16 9:59:52 PM  

#5  The only thing respected in Iraq and Iran is power and the will to use it. Right now we have the power but seem a little weak in the will department. We need to have a Predator put a Hellfire into Sadr, order noncombatants to evacuate the city, and then kill everyone left in the city, holy or not. Only a moron would let this Mahdi army try to slip back into society as a political party. Kill them now so they can't terrorize innocent Iraqis in the night or backshoot our troops.
Posted by: RWV   2004-04-16 8:44:49 PM  

#4  Seems like we are running out of choices. There can be little doubt that the Shiites are going to go nuts if we go into those cities, but what else can we do? We have to shut Al Sadr down and there is not going to be a nice way to get it done. Trying to do it surgically is only going to get a bunch of our guys killed.
Posted by: remote man   2004-04-16 7:33:14 PM  

#3  Like I said in another post. Tell the clerics (including Sistani) that the city will loses its 'holiness' status in 48 hours unless the militia and Sadr surrender. Tell them that the choice is theirs and solely theirs.
Posted by: CrazyFool   2004-04-16 7:25:07 PM  

#2  Some of the stuff about Karbala and Najaf that the media is pushing is BS, but I am beginning to think there is a red line there somewhere. Since last year I've gotten the impression that most Iraqis have an inner lunatic just waiting to come out of the closet.
Posted by: Tresho   2004-04-16 7:18:56 PM  

#1  Enough of this BS. Let's get this over with and kill as many as tatters militia as we can. Sooner or later were going to have to do this!!
The politics have failed. Tatter lies more than a rug he prays on. He is inciting a riot towards our Marines with his rhetoric. It's time for this anus sphincter muscle to die at the hands of one of our Marines in a gruesomely slow death.
Posted by: Long Hair Republican   2004-04-16 5:09:13 PM  

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