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| By Jove! I think I've got it! |
| 2004-03-18 |
| I think the past few days have proven that a determined troll can get through despite our best efforts. Why he's want to is a question best addressed by his mental health professional. Multiple IPs, multiple aliases, muliple spam strings — you just can't keep up with everything without devoting more time and effort to it than I have available. You can't keep one person out if you're not prepared to keep everyone out, and I don't want to do that. So now we enter Phase II: I've added the Trolls and Spam category to the editor so that Boris and his clones can be assigned to their very own category, at the bottom of the page. I was going to call it "Potters' Field," that that falls too high in the alphabet. I've also added a "Killed" field for the editors to use, which will cause the post not to display. I've had that for a few days, but if you browse single articles you've seen that they still show up there. So now that's fixed, and the text will be replaced by a nice message that they've been consigned to perdition. If it's a troll, but it picks up witty and amusing comments before it can be dealt with, it doesn't have to be killed. If it's just trash, kill it. Having the troll postings retained will throw counts off here and there, but I'll fix them as I notice them — pretty minor tasks. I'm going to consider the problem as solved. Yesterday we had 106 postings and over 600 comments, a new record. I'm going to get back to my project of splitting the Burg into Page 1 and Page 2, which I consider much more important than Boris and his hangups. |
| Posted by:Fred |
| #25 LOl Raj! Gator boys already out? Don't worry UF at heart is a basketball school. |
| Posted by: Shipman 2004-3-18 5:34:15 PM |
| #24 Cl, all are welcome to anything I post. If its here, its owned by Fred regardless. |
| Posted by: Super Hose 2004-3-18 5:33:26 PM |
| #23 Perhaps it would be easier to institutute a voluntary subscription system whereby posters can pay for the priviledge of posting new articles (maybe $5.00 a month?). Of course those holding subscriptions would abide by the same rules as everyone, except in your database, there could be a bit that suggests the person who posts is a subscriber, and could help sort out the garbage. For example, you have 100 rants, 12 of which are posted by folks who are on your database as subscribers, 60 of which are by non-paying subscribers. Posts by the others are subject to removal with enough complaints or warnings, and accounts under which those posts were made are suspended. Have a little suggestion box with two fields: A rant number and the username of the person submitting the complaint. Adminstrators could then quickly scan the article, make the determination if the article is not what belongs here, zap the article if not, then mail the poster with a warning. Could help in sorting out the leftwingers. Have a tiny program to mail users once a quarter with a confirming email they are who they said they are when they registered. If so, fine, if not, zap goes the weasel. I know, I know, that sounds like a lot of programming, but hey, I program perl/postgresql, and I could help with the db part if you can program the http users manager stuffies. Let everyone comment and post, as registered users with valid emails, etc |
| Posted by: badanov 2004-3-18 5:22:25 PM |
| #22 It looks like everything before today is in the Troll/Spam box. |
| Posted by: Lil Dhimmi 2004-3-18 4:50:28 PM |
| #21 Looks like I overreacted. Why were my postd consigned to the Troll/Spam Box an hour ago and just turned up again now? I'm confused. "My solution? Start drinking heavily!" I will. Soon. I had Florida in the NCAA pool... |
| Posted by: Raj 2004-3-18 4:40:39 PM |
| #20 Thumb-fingered that... Luckily I have a backup... Not very recent, though... |
| Posted by: Fred 2004-3-18 4:30:35 PM |
| #19 There seems to be some overkill going on, no? Glitches in the system... Plus T&S articles still appear on 'Page 1'. |
| Posted by: someone 2004-3-18 4:08:01 PM |
| #18 Three posts from me in the past two days, three deletes. Bye bye guys, it's been real... |
| Posted by: Raj 2004-3-18 4:03:36 PM |
| #17 We're getting trollaged.... all under the heading of death |
| Posted by: Shipman 2004-3-18 3:40:07 PM |
| #16 This is great; those wacked postings are swept off almost as quickly as they appear. Hehehehe |
| Posted by: Bomb-a-rama 2004-3-18 3:35:47 PM |
| #15 This is great; those wacked postings are swept off almost as quickly as they appear. Hehehehe |
| Posted by: Bomb-a-rama 2004-3-18 3:35:11 PM |
| #14 His NIC registry lists an email of pribich@gte.net. |
| Posted by: Sofia 2004-3-18 2:55:08 PM |
| #13 Dar - LOL! Yeah - I was surprised how much about him is available through a GIS. Sounds like he's been doing things like this since the late 90's. Lots of ticked off people looking for him too. |
| Posted by: Yosemite Sam 2004-3-18 2:49:35 PM |
| #12 YS--That makes perfect sense. The moron can't count to 21 unless he's naked. |
| Posted by: Dar 2004-3-18 1:40:10 PM |
| #11 Fred, Perhaps its time to consider rating Rantburg posters the way ebay rates its sellers and buyers. Let the readers rate the posts and the editorial body adjust the posters privelges as a result of how folks are rated. Get rated as a troll and the editorial staff get to push you into the swamp till you learn how behave. Just a thought...... |
| Posted by: Frank Martin 2004-3-18 12:56:11 PM |
| #10 The anti-trolling measures seem to be working, but the troll still seems to be winning. The only solution to trolls is the bullet. |
| Posted by: Robert Crawford 2004-3-18 12:55:22 PM |
| #9 I did an google searh for ("Boris Pribich" information) and looked under groups. Looks like our Troll is a little bit of a fruit and has a nude beach and nude work fetish. He seems to post allot at rec.nude with the reply address of CompuSerb@hotmail.com. |
| Posted by: Yosemite Sam 2004-3-18 12:50:26 PM |
| #8 Good heavens. That was FAST. |
| Posted by: Bomb-a-rama 2004-3-18 12:31:01 PM |
| #7 Alert! That guy is back - see post marked #28480. |
| Posted by: Bomb-a-rama 2004-3-18 12:28:09 PM |
| #6 Fred Akhbar! Interesting troll theory Super Hose. Rantburg seems to have developed strong troll anti-bodies. I'm dealing with a troll situation right now on a board where I'm a moderator. We've got a clown who slides in and out of troll hood in direct proportion to the aggravation he generates. I'm going to use your line with my fellow moderators. In fact, I'm going to put it in my board signature. "Trolls Sense Aggravation Like Predators Smell Fear" |
| Posted by: Classic_Liberal 2004-3-18 12:25:30 PM |
| #5 ahhh but the CSerb is a special troll - immune to ridicule and humiliation here, cuz it's ineveitably less than he experiences in his everyday life...and that's from his family and "friends" |
| Posted by: Frank G 2004-3-18 12:19:08 PM |
| #4 Well done. |
| Posted by: Mr. Davis 2004-3-18 10:47:10 AM |
| #3 I used to think that Stevo could have just gone to the library and used a computer there to beat the ban. Most of them seem to melt away when the become objects of derision unless they think that they are honestly aggravating someone. Trolls must sense aggravation like predators smell fear. I get my news via Rantburg and don't frequent many other Blogs. My impression is that humiliating trolls has worked more effectively for Fred than efforts to censor the clowns. |
| Posted by: Super Hose 2004-3-18 10:40:36 AM |
| #2 I grew up in Potters Field. It was the name of the street I lived on. |
| Posted by: phil_b 2004-3-18 10:19:39 AM |
| #1 Spiffing. |
| Posted by: Howard UK 2004-3-18 9:50:57 AM |