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Home Front: Politix
Biden endorses a fusion ticket: Kerry-McCain
2004-03-17
What's the politically correct term for "talking out one's ass?"
One of the presidential nominating season's most unusual ideas was proposed again Tuesday, this time by one of the most powerful Democrats in Congress, when Sen. Joseph Biden advocated a "unity" ticket of Democratic Sen. John Kerry and Republican Sen. John McCain. Biden made his comments on MSNBC TV's "Hardball" when moderator Chris Matthews asked him: "Do you think McCain is seriously — and I mean this professionally — flirting with the idea of accepting a second place on the ticket with John Kerry, and creating a fusion ticket to run against the president?" Replied Biden: "I think that this is time for unity in this country, and maybe it is time to have a guy like John McCain — a Republican — on the ticket with a guy he does like. They do get along. And they don't have fundamental disagreements on major policies."
Other than McCain supports the WoT and the Iraq liberation, and Kerry doesn't. Oh, and McCain's a capitalist and Kerry isn't. Oh, and McCain will stand up for what's right, and Kerry will stand for what's right and wrong, depending on which side has the better vigorish at the moment.
When asked by Matthews if he would support such a ticket, Biden said, "I would. Yeah, if John Kerry said that's who he wanted, and McCain — I'd encourage McCain to say yes. I doubt whether John would do it. I doubt whether John McCain would do it. But, you know, we need some unity here, man. The red states and the blue states — we've got to have something to coalesce around here." The notion that a lifelong Republican like McCain would join the Democratic ticket is widely dismissed by many Washington observers, but McCain himself fanned the flames when he said last week on an ABC News show that he would "entertain" joining Kerry on the Democratic ticket. "John Kerry is a close friend of mine. We have been friends for years," McCain said on "Good Morning America" on Wednesday. "Obviously I would entertain it."
He was having some fun, and trying to close Cheney's coronary grafts at the same time.
But the Arizona senator's chief of staff, Mark Salter, shot the idea down a short time later, saying that he had McCain's approval to firmly announce that "Senator McCain will not be a candidate for vice president in 2004." And despite his close relationship with Kerry, McCain himself had cast such an invitation as highly unlikely. "It's impossible to imagine the Democratic Party seeking a pro-life, free-trading, non-protectionist, deficit hawk," he said. Biden's endorsement of such a ticket Tuesday is likely to bring a fresh round of speculation in Washington. The Delaware Democrat is the ranking member of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee and considered his own bid for the presidency this year. Writing for MSNBC.com, NBC News analyst and Newsweek Senior Editor Howard Fineman pointed out that McCain and Bush have remained fairly bitter rivals since the 2000 campaign in which Bush beat McCain for the Republican nomination: "Truth be told, John McCain really can't stand George W. Bush, even if he agrees with him on a lot of things, especially Iraq." In the primary campaign in 2000, Fineman wrote, "The good ol' boy supporters of the Bush team savaged McCain and his family, spreading vicious rumors about their character and racial makeup."
That's what makes all this barely plausible.
So despite remaining firmly in the GOP camp and even campaigning for the president, McCain isn't above tweaking Bush and his re-election team by pretending to consider a place on the Democratic ticket, Fineman explained.
Maybe Kerry can get Pat Buchanan...
Posted by:Steve White

#9  And it's sKerry, isn't it, who played the "POW's in Nam? What POW's in Nam?" game during the Reagan admin. I wouldn't be surprised at all if McCain runs with Kerry. That way they could protect each other's pathetic histories. I know McCain sure doesn't want anyone finding out what he did. I wonder----how far back do McCain and Kerry go? . . . hmmm . . . Bet they know the same guys that are still there (or were there) in the prisoner camps. Anyway, I wish YOU GUYS could've seen and talked to those guys in the park. It was so sad. They were still (understandably) really broken up about their missing buddies. And still completely po'd at McCain and all the cover up.

.com, don't feel bad. At the time I thought McCain might be cool too. That's why I thought I'd wander over and ask them--who better than a bunch of Viet Nam vets to talk to about McCain being "an American hero" and all . . . I sure got an education that day!
Posted by: ex-lib   2004-3-17 6:12:28 PM  

#8  ex-lib / Analog Roam -- Thank you! As someone who hasn't had access to such information before, I accepted the bio "as is" without reservations. Your input has definitely changed that notion - and I will be appropriately skeptical in the future. His arrogance is visible, but not overwhelmed by his on-camera charm. So I've been fooled until now.

I suspect that, for guys like Skeery and McCain, opening the past to honest scrutiny is a terrifying prospect - at least until they get so benumbed by their own bullshit that they actually begin to believe it themselves. And aggressive image defense should've piqued my suspicions... *slaps self on forehead* F**kin Duh.

Thanx, again, for your comments... my gullibility quotient on McCain has been drastically reduced!
Posted by: .com   2004-3-17 4:30:00 PM  

#7  In 1976, as a young Airman in the USN, fresh out of "A" school. I was stationed at Cecil Field Florida with VA-174, the A-7 training squadron.

Shortly after my arrival, none other than (at the time) Commander John McCain was piped aboard as the Commanding Officer.

As a Plane Captain trainee working the flight line I had numerous opportunities to interact with the Cmdr., and observe his interactions with others. I can tell you with complete sincereity,
that he is an arrogant and contemptuous ass.

Anyone that takes him at face value is seriously delusional. He is a perfect politician, and all that goes with it! Spit!!!

-AR
Posted by: Analog Roam   2004-3-17 4:07:49 PM  

#6  "John Kerry is a friend of mine." That's enough said right there. BUT, when I was living in Virginia Beach VA a few years ago, some Vietnam Vets were conducting a ceremony at a park to honor the POWs. I went over to talk to them and asked them what they thought about McCain, who, at the time, was getting a lot of media attention regarding the upcoming election. These guys actually served with McCain in Nam and they really, really, really hate his guts. They told me he betrayed their friends numerous times to the enemy and brokered deals with the North Vietnamese to protect himself--to keep himself safe. They said his whole spiel is bullsh-t, and that he's spent all the years since pawning himself off as some kind of ex-POW American "hero" in order to hide what really happened. They said many of the POWs (i.e their fellow soldiers/friends) wouldn't even be in Nam (or dead, now) if it weren't for McCain. As many times as these guys would spit whenever they said his name--well, I don't think the park service needed to turn on the sprinklers that week.
Posted by: ex-lib   2004-3-17 9:05:55 AM  

#5  Well,there is a Republican in high standing available.One who is unhappy with his party right now,because he feels unfairly ostracized by it.He has a distinguished record as a Senator,and he works well with the Democrats.To add to that,he is a pro-defence Southerner.

Ladies and Gentlemen,meet John Kerry's new VP:
TRENT LOTT!
Posted by: El Id   2004-3-17 8:48:11 AM  

#4  That would be Rectal Sphinctoral Discourse,Steve.
Posted by: Raptor   2004-3-17 7:26:07 AM  

#3  What dotards like Finemyn forget is that the potato-faced McCain't ran ads in Iowa, New Hampshire and South Carolina morphing the face of President Bush into the face of billy bin clinton with the voice-over stating, "Bush lies like Clinton." Consequently, the BUSH TEAM had every right to savage the neckless one. Unfortunately, the kind and gentle BUSH TEAM had nothing to do with the self-financed and self-motivated redneck who smeared McCain't "and his family". If McCain't despised President Bush, he would not be working for President Bush's re-election in any way, shape or form. There are two Republicans the Democrats in the press love. Colin Powell due to his skin color and the RACIST, WHITE SUPREMACIST belief helf by white democrats all black men must be democrats. And McCain't who will reliably shoot off his mouth when cued by leftist news media types looking to smear Republicans.
Posted by: Garrison   2004-3-17 7:04:14 AM  

#2  and Uday is having a snowball fight with Qusay right now.
Posted by: B   2004-3-17 5:49:27 AM  

#1  Yes, the Islamos are seeking a fusion bomb, and this looks like their ticket.
Posted by: Atomic Conspiracy   2004-3-17 4:30:13 AM  

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