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Iran warns Israel against striking nuke facilities
2004-02-28
Edited for brevity.
Iran’s defense minister said Israel does not dare attack Iran but warned Saturday that any such military offensive would be met with a harsh response. "I completely rule out that Israel would dare direct any military strike at any Iranian facilities," Ali Shamkhani said. "But if Israel one day commits such military folly against Iran, I can promise you that (Prime Minister) Ariel Sharon, assuming he stays alive, will appear on television screens and announce that he regrets this folly. ... He will suffer and scream out in pain," Shamkhani said.
"Ow! My bunion!"
Shamkhani has said in the past that his country would strike back with long-range missiles if Israel attacks its nuclear facilities, as the Jewish state did against a nuclear reactor in Iraq in 1981. He said Iran’s long-range Shahab-3 missile, which has a range of about 1,300 kilometers (810 miles), would be one of the weapons used. Israel is about 965 kilometers (600 miles) west of Iran.
Immediately after the launch the Shahab operators will find that things get very noisy in their neighborhood. And then very quiet.
Shamkhani said Iran was not worried about having American troops next door in Iraq. "Despite the (rosy) picture that the US and others are trying to paint ... the United States is in fact inside a whirlpool (in Iraq) and consequently, it is a hostage of its military presence there," he said. He accused the United States of trying to impose its control over the Middle East region under the pretext of spreading democracy and fighting terrorism.
Gee, they saw right through us. And here I thought we were being so subtle...
Posted by:Dar

#11  Just got back in...

I orginally wrote a response more than twice as long - after editing it should've been moved to the Iraq section under GK's post.

Some of what I cut out to shorten it made my post too vague. Criticism is well-taken, though partition is, indeed, what I have in mind, phil_b.

I would respond to Aris & wuzzalib that I see partitioning the Kurdish zone (incl norther oilfields & Kirkuk), with an initial status of member state within Iraq Confederation - North Iraq, I guess. The Turks can kiss our hairy asses.

The remainder of Iraq will trail far behind in every significant way - probably for a decade, at least... but the people there will get a good first-hand look at what they could have if they pulled themselves out of the Dark Ages. North Iraq / Kurdistan would be a model - we have seen what those people can do if left unfettered.

I also believe that, depending upon Nov elections and other timetable variables such as Iranian progress toward launchable nuke, that the newly evolved Democratic Republic of Persia, sans Black Hats / Rev Guard / BS Council, would provide another prime model for how it can be. Unless everything possible goes wrong from the US POV, this will eventually happen and serve as a good model - I have zero doubt in the Iranian public to create a progressive and stable society.

The Sunni and Shi'a need a dose of reality, not their own mullahcracy or incessent low-grade flypaper war. They ARE cowards and they WILL 'get it' if we will put the hammer down. Sistani, who seems to be dearly loved by most, is just another moron seeking power. His statements regards separation of church and state are BS. He would expect to RULE over the Shi'a, and give polite nods to laws which vary from his Shari'a, but would expect people to obey him. I think he also hopes to rule over the hated Sunni, too, who certainly have some serious retribution coming. Call this mess Southern Iraq - or maybe Arabian Messypotamia.

One thing I truly believe: the Kurds deserve better than to be lumped in with the dumbasses of Arabic Islamofascism - hat tip to Aris, an apt term - and forced to wait for them to kill each other off.
:-)
Posted by: .com   2004-2-29 12:07:11 AM  

#10  I, um, agree with Aris.....
Posted by: WUZZALIB   2004-2-28 11:45:28 PM  

#9  The answer to what exactly? Partition at this point means surrender -- surrendering the Sunni piece to the baathists, surrendering the Shia piece to the islamofascists, surrendering the Kurdish piece to who knows what. To Turkey perhaps.

And ethnic expulsions, and minor disputes which the Iranians will easily use to their advantage as the superpower in the region. Oh, the Soviet Union loved the Greek-Turkish disputes. Think that Iran won't love Turkey-Kurdistan disputes?

Still a separation of Kurdistan is halfway-viable atleast. The true madness will only come if you try to partition Shiites from Sunnis on religious lines. Once you've defined their countries on the basis of religions, nothing will be able to save them from islamofascism anymore...
Posted by: Aris Katsaris   2004-2-28 11:16:43 PM  

#8  And it will be useful practice for partitioning Saudi Arabia and Iran.
Posted by: phil_b   2004-2-28 9:38:17 PM  

#7  Agreed .com! Partitioning Iraq is the answer.
Posted by: phil_b   2004-2-28 9:37:06 PM  

#6  It's worse than a Maytag...
Posted by: Vic   2004-2-28 8:15:17 PM  

#5  ... the United States is in fact inside a whirlpool

Is that worse then a quagmire? Just asking...
Posted by: tu3031   2004-2-28 8:06:18 PM  

#4  Jeezz... B are you serious?
Posted by: Shipman   2004-2-28 8:01:17 PM  

#3  Timelines...

I wonder, given the walkout by the Shi'a weenies from the Iraqi GC constitutional subcommittee over Shari'a --and-- Sistani's urge to grab power through mob rule, those "early" elections he wants before there's even a voter roll to prevent (ha!) fraud...

Would we be seeing the same Shi'a Shari'a bullshit in Iraq if the Mad Mullahs in Iran were both out of power and their nuke dreams were nuked?

Poor Kurds. Waiting impatiently - held back from getting on with life by the brutal Turks backward Arabs. It's always something / someone. Arabs. People who couldn't grab a clue if their lives depended upon it. They do.

Why make the Kurds wait for the Sunnis to stop trying to commit mass suicide and for the Shi'a to quit trying to insert Shari'a as the basis for the constitution? While we should be more than happy to accommodate the back-shooting Sunnis, we don't follow through. While we have stated flatly that we will not tolerate Shari'a in the constitution, the Shi'a keep throwing their tantrums and threatening to hold their collective breath. Pfeh.

All of the Iraqi Arabs, Sunni and Shi'a alike, are gutless cowards. Total. Gutless. Cowards. Kow-towing whimperers or collaborators -- for decades. For generations, plural. Without us, they would be still. Whimpering simpering back-stabbing boot-licking shadows of men. They would still be Saddam's Sheep.

Baaaaaa, motherfuckers. Partition.
Posted by: .com   2004-2-28 8:00:57 PM  

#2  hmm..so the Israeli's are considering this. I wonder if they dropped pigs on the runway like they did in SA in 1985. I hoped they didn't drop live ones again - poor pigs.
Posted by: B   2004-2-28 6:19:14 PM  

#1  they're sure squealing a lot for being in the catbird's seat, huh? I say it's time to call their bluff...I'd like to see a lot of black turbans unraveling upside down from lampposts
Posted by: Frank G   2004-2-28 6:17:39 PM  

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