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Battling for Hearts and Minds
2004-02-23
Very EFL. Link to the blog and read the whole thing.
Insofar as we allow the enemy to define the battleground, the advantage is his. Our enemy is the Qutb/Salafi/Wahhabi Muslims who believe us a Satanic threat to Islam (this is exact and not hyperbole: Satan is the deceiver/seducer). Their philosophy has 2 main thrusts as far as we are concerned:
  1. a critique of the West as secular/atheist (or Christian; it doesn’t matter much to Qutb) and therefore intrinsically deranged; and

  2. a claim that only through adherence to God’s law as codified in sharia is there true happiness and nobility.
We cannot persuade our committed foes, and shouldn’t bother trying. We may be able reduce their recruiting rate, though. If we take their challenges as our battlefield, and attempt to deny them directly, we’re apt to lose. For example, consider Qutb’s first front. Our culture very plainly has deranged aspects, and atheism has a very prominent place in it. You may try to say that every society has problems--but Johnny Abdul will be more scandalized by alien faults than familiar ones. The local problems (government corruption, etc) may hurt him more, but they don’t shock him as much as the unfamiliar ones. You may try to point out that a secular government doesn’t require secularism--but that subtle point is apt to elude him: It has escaped attention here in the West as well. In short, Johnny Abdul is likely to agree with Qutb that we’re a lot of deranged atheists.
Us agnostics and atheists are up for the high jump when the caliph takes over...
Johnny Abdul is not an atheist; he despises them. He does like the goodies we offer, and for a lot of people, in peacetime, that’s enough to reconcile them to us. But even in peacetime, and more certainly in war, sophisticated Muslims will warn that the goodies are a trap to snare good Muslims into materialism and vice. Which of course they certainly can be.
The goodies don't care about your religion, if any...
To make matters worse, Johnny Abdul may want the goodies, but he can’t have them. He doesn’t make enough money. He can’t, not without fairly dramatic political and economic restructuring--which won’t happen. The political poles in these societies are the entrenched interests (and factions thereof) and the revolutionaries--who have coalesced around radical Islam. Not much hope for useful change there... If it were possible to improve Johnny Abdul’s economic life, he’d be more likely to go along with the great Satan in order to get medicine, etc. But he is simultaneously more likely to become more sophisticated and realize the trap of materialism.
His economic life is never going to improve if he grows to adultery having read only one book. He's never going to improve his economic lot when he invests all his surplus capital (and some that's not surplus) in holy men and building new mosques.
One school of thought holds that if we can make the Muslims middle class, they’ll exclude religion from their calculations--like Sunday-only Christians. But Marx was wrong, and not all motives are economic. How many of the suicide bombers are poor? How many of the 911 killers were poor? In any event, we can’t change the economic conditions of Mideast countries without taking control of them--the reforms required are too radical. They need new political systems, changed economic structures, different educational priorities, different social attitudes towards corruption and nepotism--not just better roads.
Hmmm... That's a flat statement that they're all incompetent to handle their own affairs. I don't think I agree. The Gulf States are actually doing a pretty good job of administering their own affairs. Tunisia seems to be a functioning secular state, though I'm not intimately familiar with it. Morocco's working hard to modernize. Libya, like them or not, has broken the Islamic-Arabist mold. We're actually only talking about a few countries that are showing themselves incompetent, and that primarily through the vagaries of dictatorial regimes. And of course the princes of Arabia, who have, in fact, proven themselves incompetent. The real problem doesn't seem to be the governments, which can be changed, but the substratum of society that's got the stranglehold on education, linked as it is with the guys who give the Friday rants.
The other front--that sharia is the way of joy--is hard to counter directly, since Johnny’s imam will point out that we (being infidels) have no standing to judge such things. We can publicize the horrors of the Iranian mullahs or the Saudi custodians of virtue or the Taliban soccer field mayhem. It won’t get very far coming from us. I see that we’ve finally gotten a satellite station up, but I don’t know much about it yet. Iraq is a great place to plant radio/TV stations for the whole Middle East--and we haven’t moved on that yet. Even so, we can’t expect that anyone will accept our critiques of Islam.
I don't think we can look for a quick turnaround, but I do think we've got the opportunity for progress. We don't run the Baghdad press, but they seem to have gotten the free press idea pretty quickly and enthusiastically, and it's read outside of Baghdad. Given a few years, it'll be read throughout the Middle East, and has the potential to replace rags like Asharq al-Asswipe. What we absolutely, positively have to do in Iraq is foster the idea of individual liberty: go to the mosque (or church or temple) you want, or stay home; say pretty much what you want; do pretty much what you want. To paraphrase Huey Long, make every man a king, no man a despot. That sort of idea can't help but catch on, of only because Iraqis travel and other people travel to Iraq.
Posted by:Korora

#8  To say that we cant influence the enemy is incorrect. Activily halting pro jihad propaganda distribution (in this case, replacing mosque speakers, censoring media) can have a good effect.

Financiers can be turned or executed if they dont cooperate.

If we get hit by a nuke because we want to play nice, we deserve it for being stupid.
Posted by: flash91   2004-2-23 4:42:12 PM  

#7  Step 1 is the US and Europe should finance Turkish built and run Sufi Islam mosques and maddrasses throughout the Islamic world. This should be done at the same time Saudi Wahhabi mosques are closed or the Saudi's are convinced funding them is no longer in their best interests. Combine that with a few Turkish radio shows and hospitals throughout the old Ottoman territories.

That would do more to cut into terrorist funding and support than any kind of direct counter-Islamic campaign. I don't care if the Turk/Sufi's aren't American buddies, as long as they aren't our enemies.

Step 2. Be specific when the US goes after radical Islam that we mean (a) the Iranian Mullahs' misinterpretation of Shia'a (b) The Saudi Wahhabi sect.
Posted by: ruprecht   2004-2-23 3:13:44 PM  

#6  
we can’t expect that anyone will accept our critiques of Islam

They must learn to tolerate criticism of Islam.
Posted by: Mike Sylwester   2004-2-23 12:57:35 PM  

#5  VAMark - TOLUI wasn't suggesting that Mexico was the high-mark for democratic society - he was saying that the religion that was the center of Aztec society had been totally destroyed, and the very tiny few people that follow it today make no ripple in the fabric of society. He is suggesting destroying the heart of Islam as a means of destroying the absolute cradle-to-grave hold Islam imposes on its followers.
Posted by: Old Patriot   2004-2-23 10:59:12 AM  

#4  Ask Montezuma? Mexico isn't my model for a successful outcome in Iraq by a long shot.
Posted by: VAMark   2004-2-23 10:15:53 AM  

#3  I have more hope for a positive outcome in Lebanon, for example, than I do in Haiti or Zimbabwe - neither of them are Islamic.
Posted by: Super Hose   2004-2-23 9:18:40 AM  

#2  Interesting example.SOT
Posted by: Raptor   2004-2-23 7:45:34 AM  

#1  on the other hand--H bomb mecca and medina and turn them into a glass bowl not fit for a human visit for ten thousand years--destroy their religious holy of holies--annihilate their ulema--totally demoralize their religious beliefs and identity--make 'em ecomomic serfs and gradually re-educate 'em--it could work--ask montezuma--see anyone around fearing and worshipping quetzlcoatl lately?
Posted by: SON OF TOLUI   2004-2-23 2:13:42 AM  

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