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Guardian: Bush ’bending science to his political needs’
2004-02-19
EFL of boringly repetitive "Bush wants to lay waste to the enviroment after he is done lying about WMD" type charges that are not backed up.
The Bush administration is guilty of misrepresenting scientific knowledge and misleading the public, a group of America’s most senior scientists claimed yesterday. They said the government had manipulated information to fit its policies on everything from climate change to whether Iraq had been trying to make nuclear weapons.
-snip- about ten paragraphs of unsubstantiated accusations included by the Guardian to hide this next passage.
The NAS reviewed the draft strategy and gave the CCSP a chance to improve its plans. Yesterday’s report is an evaluation of these revisions. "The plans are quite good now actually, it has been quite responsive to the scientific community," said Diana Liverman, director of the Environmental Change Institute at Oxford University and a co-author of the NAS report. "But the academy’s concerns are mostly about whether the resources will actually be there to implement it. And if the resources aren’t there, which bits of it are going to be implemented?"
Translation - the administration has propsed a sensible plan for real studies to determine scientifically whether Global Warming is factual. Work that could possibly have taken place prior to the Koyoto Protocals. In science its customary to test the hypothesis developing an expensive plan based on the assumption that the hypothesis is true.
Linda Mearns of the national Centre for Atmospheric Research in Boulder, Colorado, agreed: "I think it does indicate that they have been certainly pressured by the criticism by the scientific community." Writing in today’s Guardian Life section, Prof Liverman said scientists in the US were increasingly complaining of political interference with their work. She outlines the increasing suppression of research that goes against government policy on global warming. "To be a scientist working on climate change in the US is to be frustrated by the backlash against environmental science, research budget cuts and by the American media’s general lack of interest in environmental issues," she writes.
It’s like everybody wants us to stop politicizing our studies.
One group of scientists had federal lawsuits filed against them by lobby groups for producing reports based on fictitious data on the effects of climate change across the US.
Which group?
The UCS has long been critical of the Bush administrations attitude to climate change. "The distortion of scientific knowledge for partisan political ends must cease if the public is to be properly informed about issues central to its well being," its letter said.
Translation - let the kooks generate the results they want on their self-perpetuating alarmist studies. Every other administration has let us run amok. Why should your administration require us to strictly adhere to the rules of science.
Posted by:Super Hose

#11  Hiryu, Lysenkoism is remarkably similar to Kyotoism. Science subsumed to a political agenda.
Posted by: phil_b   2004-2-19 6:49:37 PM  

#10  Why Hiryu... you usually agree with us.
Posted by: New Soviet Man   2004-2-19 6:43:48 PM  

#9  You folks might think this is all very funny but I'll pass on the Lysenkoism.
Posted by: Hiryu   2004-2-19 6:14:49 PM  

#8  Translation = The Bush administration is promising substantial amounts of money for research to determine if global warming is actually occuring and if so what are the real causes.

No wonder the Kyoto lobby is alarmed! Evidence that Kyoto is based on hot air (pun intended) will destroy a lot of gravy trains.
Posted by: phil_b   2004-2-19 5:14:39 PM  

#7  Every Global Warming Study I've seen always assumes that solar output is constant. It isn't, the Sun is a mildly variable star.
Posted by: Cheddarhead   2004-2-19 4:53:26 PM  

#6  . "To be a scientist working on climate change in the US is to be frustrated by the backlash against environmental science, research budget cuts and by the American media’s general lack of interest in environmental issues,"

Fact: NIH, National Science Foundation, NASA and EPA budgets for research have increased by greater than the cost of living in the Bush administration.

Media reporters are no less competent reporting about the environment than they are about everything else (parse that carefully). And while there is no "backlash against environmental science", there is a welcome reassessment of agenda-driven environmental science.
Posted by: Steve White   2004-2-19 4:46:03 PM  

#5  Unfortunately, once again those without an understanding of basic science try to turn the climate into a religion. Take the analogy; we have a god (Gaia), an Eden (world without people or pollution), the sin (mankind, pollution), redemption (renewables, recyling) and salvation (going back to the primitive). The truth is that not that long ago (approx. 200 years ago) humanity turned on a path that leads to inevitability. Its too late to return unless a few billion deaths are acceptable.
Posted by: Chemist   2004-2-19 4:18:45 PM  

#4  The Guardian folks are just bummed because they are starting to realize that, despite their best efforts, the info on nuclear proliferation is going to prove GW right and make them all look small and irrelevant. Now they intend to keep digging with their junk science....why...because there are no fools like old fools.

It must be tough to look in the mirror one day and realize that you never were cool or hip but rather just a useful idiot for tyrants. The 60's are so long over... and now they are little more than bitter old frauds with the blood of mass graves and rape rooms all over their hands.

Can't wash that stuff off guys. Might as well learn to live with it.
Posted by: B   2004-2-19 2:36:44 PM  

#3  i feel deeply ashamed that a member of my family buys the al Gaurdiana , i can't seem to change thier ways whatever i try, good for a laugh sometimes though
Posted by: Jon Shep U.K   2004-2-19 2:34:17 PM  

#2  So what is it now, eggheads? Bush is Mengele???
Make up your friggin' minds, will ya.
Posted by: tu3031   2004-2-19 2:22:05 PM  

#1  Next at The Guardian: Does George Bush have a soul?
Posted by: Matt   2004-2-19 2:20:02 PM  

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