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| Palestinians easily scale Israel’s $1.9 billion security fence |
| 2004-01-21 |
| Palestinian infiltrators have succeeded in breaching Israel’s new security fence and barrier system. "Maginot Line!" "Quagmire!" "Oh MY!" Israeli security sources said Palestinian infiltrators have scaled the four-meter high concrete fence by using a simple ladder. The Israeli project calls for the establishing of a 730-kilometer fence at a cost of $1.9 billion. Most of the project consists of a concrete wall or chain-link fence with sensors, cameras and military patrols. But it’s not done yet, is it? In one case, Arab infiltrators brought a ladder to the fence in the northeastern West Bank. They quickly scaled the fence and entered a waiting car that took them to Israeli Arab villages. The infiltrators were deemed as Palestinians looking for High velocity bullets, night scopes, more sensors, and permission to shoot should do it Since the fence was built, the sources said about two infiltrations a month take place from the West Bank through the area of the fence. Before the fence was built, the number of infiltrations was reported at 300 a month. let’s see, that’s a ...2 divided by 300....carry the 0’s....um... 99% reduction...guess it isn’t working huh? |
| Posted by:Frank G |
| #13 How about a derivative of the exploding-dye packets that are used in banks? |
| Posted by: Bomb-a-rama 2004-1-21 6:09:00 PM |
| #12 This idea may only work for a short time, but if done correctly, could yield some really awesome results. 1: Coat the top of the wall with a layer of something like the black light ink that lets you get back into clubs and Disneyland and what-not. Instead of using a liquid dye, use a fine powder so as not to raise suspicions that there is anything else to the wall than the normal dust one would acquire climbing over concrete. At the same time make it a fine enough powder that even a vigorous brushing off couldn't remove it. 2: Wait. 3: That night, send out some stealth-type "eye in the sky" drone, like the one that filmed the fake paleo funeral last year. You know, the one one where the "bearers" accidently dumped the stretcher and the "corpse" kept getting up to run back on? Only this time, fit it with some sort of night vision camera that would be able to detect anyone with the dye. 4: At this point, either follow their activity to a den, or just have the coordinates sent to the IDF, who can then pull a , "Dust 'em till they glow, then shoot 'em in the dark!" Okay, maybe I read too many comics when I was a kid, but it sounds pretty feasible, yeah? |
| Posted by: Dripping Sarcasm 2004-1-21 2:48:09 PM |
| #11 Damn shame we couldn't have just recycled the Berlin Wall. Finally could have put the thing to good use. Ed. |
| Posted by: Ed Becerra 2004-1-21 2:39:18 PM |
| #10 If I were a Paleostinian, I would let them build the wall or fence, and just switch tactics. Instead of suicide bombers, use mortars, rockets, or just throw stones over it. This thing about counter-battery fire is all a myth (plus the IDF doesn't have radar). disclaimer: sarcasm |
| Posted by: Rafael 2004-1-21 1:56:12 PM |
| #9 A negative reinforcement technique would be to wait until a bunch of guys were on the ladder and then open up with a 50 cal. Besides, an electrified fence might hurt somebody. |
| Posted by: Super Hose 2004-1-21 1:33:10 PM |
| #8 The main point about a defensive wall, throughout history, is not that by itself provides some sort of security, but that a wall, combined with proper patrol and defense, will be a sufficient obstacle to greatly increase the security inside. The benefit of the wall as opposed to a patrolled and defended open space, is that it lets you cut down substantially on the number of troops and sentries you need. Also, it lets you concentrate your troops in specific places from where they can respond in force as necessary (because now they have time to respond), rather than have realtively weak forces distributed along the length of the perimeter. |
| Posted by: Carl in N.H. 2004-1-21 12:53:11 PM |
| #7 Why not use a few land mines? |
| Posted by: sludj 2004-1-21 12:25:33 PM |
| #6 I reckon the Gaza fence is quite effective, if not perfect, and the security fence will be built on the same blueprint, with wall sections added. Anyway, if that is so easily breached, why do propaleostinian orgs everywhere screeching about the "apartheid wall"? Btw, 96% trench-fence-barbwire-patrol road-sensors-fine sand strip (for footprints), 4% concrete wall. You'll note that the vast majority of pictures, news footages, demonstrations, etc, etc... only show theses 4%. You might call it a bias. |
| Posted by: Anonymickeymouse 2004-1-21 7:38:46 AM |
| #5 Electrify the sucker. That'll do the trick. |
| Posted by: Bomb-a-rama 2004-1-21 2:51:23 AM |
| #4 ....but can they do it while wearing a bomb belt? |
| Posted by: Atomic Conspiracy 2004-1-21 2:28:46 AM |
| #3 Electrify the sucker. |
| Posted by: Rafael 2004-1-21 12:53:46 AM |
| #2 Probably looking for some sheesh! Why else pack a ladder. I'm reminded of Hendrix, "Hey man, it's rain'n!" |
| Posted by: Lucky 2004-1-21 12:42:58 AM |
| #1 "let’s see, that’s a ...2 divided by 300....carry the 0’s....um... 99% reduction...guess it isn’t working huh? " That depends on how many infiltrations occur in *total*, not in that specific area. With an unfinished fence, infiltrators don't need to go through *there*, except in order to test the defenses for later use. Or so I imagine. *When* the fence is built, only then will we be able to estimate how much infiltration is taking place. This incident however still makes one wonder how defensible the Israeli fence will end up being, given that its future course is gonna be even more twisty than the current portion... The more twisty, the longer, the more troops needed to guard it... etc |
| Posted by: Aris Katsaris 2004-1-21 12:39:05 AM |