| Submit your comments on this article |
| Home Front |
| Bush to Propose Immigration Law Changes |
| 2004-01-06 |
| EFL President Bush will propose immigration law changes to allow workers from Mexico to enter the United States if they have jobs waiting for them, officials said Monday in previewing an election-year measure intended to bolster support among Hispanic voters. -- Whining from advocacy group about not being consulted snipped --- Karl Rove, with Bush at a campaign fund-raiser in St. Louis, deflected questions about Bush’s proposal. "Stay tuned," he told a reporter. Bush’s planned announcement comes five days before he meets in Mexico with President Vicente Fox on the sidelines of the Summit of the Americas, a meeting of the hemisphere’s leaders. Bargaining position Mexico is seeking a measure of legality for the approximately 4 million In direct violation of federal law and wants a legal way for others to work in the country in the future. Note how the existing illegal aliens and the future ’workers’ are seperated. He wants us to reward the current illegal aliens as well as allow more aliens in. Do you think he would support this for non-Mexicans? Didn’t think so. Immigration talks between the United States and Mexico stalled when the Sept. 11 terror attacks prompted the United States to tighten border restrictions Cause, meet Effect. Effect, Cause. Homeland Security Secretary Tom Ridge, at a town hall meeting in Miami last month, hinted at a change of policy when he said the United States needs to "come to grips" with an estimated 8 million to 12 million illegal immigrants and "determine how you can legalize their presence." And piss on all the decent law-abiding people who have been waiting years to come here legally.. He also said that the immigrants should not be rewarded citizenship Being firmly against blanket amnesty is good (since the vast majority of citizens are against it as well. Two guest-worker bills have been proposed in Congress: One from Arizona Republican Sen. John McCain and two of McCain’s Republican House colleagues, Jim Kolbe and Jeff Flake; and a second from Sen. John Cornyn. Cornyn, a Texas Republican, has proposed that illegal immigrants could volunteer to work for up to three years if a job exists for them. When they’ve worked three years, they could apply for legal permanent residence, but must return to their country of origin to do so. Will they have to wait in line like all the law abiding people do? Workers illegally in the United States would have 12 months to apply to the program and after that would no longer be eligible. Those accepted would be given a "blue card," allowing them to travel outside the United States. Would those who refuse be deported? Otherwise this is meaningless. The Cornyn proposal would give guest workers the same rights granted Americans under Labor Department laws and would set up accounts for workers in which employers would deposit money drawn from workers’ wages in lieu of withdrawing the money for Social Security or Medicare. An incentive to return to their country of origin. Good idea. The money would be held by the Treasury and would be refunded to the worker when the worker returns to his or her home country. I think the Cornyn plan has merit as long as there are safeguards and background, medical checks such as they have now for legal immigrants. And that it is applied not only to Mexicans but other immigrants as well (otherwise it would be racial... that does not bother the left but it does me...). Combine this with a serious crackdown (on employers, politicians who dont report illegal aliens, illegal aliens, etc...) it might work otherwise there will be no incentive for someone to choose this over simply crossing the border. Also that these ’blue card’ holders are not eligible for green cards without going thru the same process (and wait) as legal aliens. I like the idea of having an incentive to return (perhaps give them their money in return for the ’blue card’). |
| Posted by:CrazyFool |
| #12 For more information on this subject, read Victor Davis Hanson's book "Mexifornia". |
| Posted by: Les Nessman 2004-1-6 10:02:50 PM |
| #11 I fear that GWB doesn't appreciate how many angry Californians there will be with more concessions to illegal immigration. Remember the amnesty program in the past. Did nothing. Things got worse. |
| Posted by: Sgt.DT 2004-1-6 6:54:30 PM |
| #10 Jeebus, a few more bills like this and they're going to start referring to Bush as the leading Democratic candidate. |
| Posted by: BH 2004-1-6 5:40:43 PM |
| #9 ..dont forget the pee in the elevators. Out here, that would be the area where the garbage bin sits. One time, I saw one of those Latino tenants urinating in the parking lot by the tire of his pickup. He then picks up something out of the pickup's cab and then heads on over to the unit where he lives. I mean, couldn't the jerk have waited just a minute longer to do his business in his own bathroom? Brainless idiot. As far as McCain goes, I respect his mil record but his stance on immigration sucks. Probably because the guy represents Arizona, a border state. Gotta please all them Latinos whose first allegiance is to race, ya know..... |
| Posted by: Bomb-a-rama 2004-1-6 4:56:07 PM |
| #8 Phil, right on. Plus, how many more people we need in this country anyhow? I'd put a 5 yr moratorium on all immigration. Let's figure out whose here and who needs to leave. If they want to start a guest worker program w/strict guidelines, criteria and controls I'd be for it, but no more of this blanket amnesty talk - b.s. political pandering. As far as McCain goes, I respect his mil record but his stance on immigration sucks. I've even been upset w/Bush being too lenient on Mexico. Heck, for every illegal they send us, we send them five convicts in exchange..... |
| Posted by: Jarhead 2004-1-6 4:00:47 PM |
| #7 The unions are going to crap themselves. They've been against any kind of guest worker program since the demise of the Bracero program. The Democrats will no doubt come out against this one. NOTE: The article I linked to is typical tranzi, far left BS. There are several bracero articles available on the web and they all seem to crib off this one and the same interview with the same disgruntled ex-bracero. Not a lot of original work being done in the ethnic studies world, I guess. |
| Posted by: 11A5S 2004-1-6 3:31:03 PM |
| #6 ....that is downhill FAST. (Geeze.... it isn't even monday...). |
| Posted by: CrazyFool 2004-1-6 1:32:21 PM |
| #5 Bomb, dont forget the pee in the elevators. That adds that special 'essence' from their home..... My brother used to rent an apartment in a complex which rented also like this. Place went downhill face. |
| Posted by: CrazyFool 2004-1-6 1:31:37 PM |
| #4 Throw people in jail if they hire or rent to illegals, as well as the illegals themselves as Singapore does. I'm all for that. The manager at my apartment complex (since booted) granted tenancy willy-nilly to whomever, and the bulk of the new tenants are Latino immigrants (most likely illegal aliens). The result is an increase in garbage strewn about the property, junk cars that sit in unmarked general parking stalls, increased police presence (due to more calls), and a sharp increase in abandoned shopping carts in and around the complex. It had been cleaned up rather nicely and now everything took one huge step backward. |
| Posted by: Bomb-a-rama 2004-1-6 12:00:57 PM |
| #3 Yeah, the Cornyn/Flake bill sounds good. Personally, I'm opposing anything coming out of McCain. Since that election "reform" fiasco that directly attacks my 1st Amendment rights I tend to think that there's more than one agenda in anything he supports. |
| Posted by: rabidfox 2004-1-6 11:16:33 AM |
| #2 Hey, I could get behind a Cornyn/Flake bill... See if the Milk lobby is on board... |
| Posted by: mojo 2004-1-6 10:41:05 AM |
| #1 It has long been my contention that the USA and the UK need to strictly control illegal migration (and mostly bogus refugee seekers). You should check out what John Howard has done in Australia. He has taken a very hard line which has been very popular. The left wing opposition Labour party is running seriously scared on the subject. I would go further and say if you want migrant workers then copy the Singapore system and sell permits to employers and strictly police the system. Throw people in jail if they hire or rent to illegals, as well as the illegals themselves as Singapore does. It may sound harsh but it works. Speaking as someone who has been both a migrant worker (they have different classifications :-))and an employer of migrant workers in Singapore I can say the system works. Migrant worker employment permits are also a major source of revenue for the government, as I recall in excess of 10% of total government revenues. |
| Posted by: phil_b 2004-1-6 7:07:56 AM |