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-Short Attention Span Theater-
IndyMedia on the ropes?
2003-12-29
LGF has information about trouble IndyMedia is having staying on line. Citing being forced to move from donated machines on short notice, they are begging for equipment and donations.

If this is true, this is happy news.
Posted by:badanov

#27  As always, Rantburg is the place to go for the facts. Thanks to everyone who helped answer my question.

Personally, I think COINTELPRO is hard to pronounce and looks quite ominous on the printed page. It's easy to see how the term could be ascribed to eeeevil G-men "out to get you".
Posted by: Seafarious   2003-12-29 10:00:08 PM  

#26  #23 Ruby! Of course I remember you. I quoted you on LGF just yesterday, on the Indymedia belly-up string:

"(Indymedia)...powered by 12 volt organic solar cells hung from the roof of the unabomber's outhouse."
It's one of my favorites and never fails to get laughs.

(Fifth Column Watch is still up, I post once in a while to preserve the archive but, like you, I have switched mostly to the blogs.)

I've given up completely on SFN, now that the Hate America Mob and Michael Moore=God Cult have taken over.
Everyone else, thanks for your good wishes. It's good to be back.

As for COINTELPRO, as lefty paranoids use the term, none other than Attorney-General Ramsey Clark was the originator of the program to infiltrate the 60s anti-war movement.
This is at least spooky, and possibly far more than that.
Posted by: Atomic Conspiracy   2003-12-29 7:24:54 PM  

#25  Great to hear you're still with us, A.C.! Keep getting healthier!

As for Indymedia, et al, I subscribe to the troll cage school of thought. I'm as big a civil liberterian as anyone but I certainly hope that whatever COINTELPRO-style program we might have under the Patriot Act is reading that site and taking notes. Most are wussies but there are bound to some Sirhan Sirhan types out there.
Posted by: JDB   2003-12-29 6:54:57 PM  

#24  COINTELPRO = FNORD.

Posted by: Shipman   2003-12-29 5:31:21 PM  

#23  Atomic Conspiracy! I don't know if you remember me (rubysue from Bad Astronomy and Skeptical Friends), but I'm glad to see that you are back in action and hope you have recovered. I spend my time now mostly reading (and very occasionally posting) on my favorite blogs (this one, LGF, Tim Blair, Den Beste, Instapundit, etc.).
Posted by: rubysue   2003-12-29 2:08:50 PM  

#22  So like, I started crawling through IM's various international sites, and through their various articles and peoples' comments, and I came across something like this: "If it wasn't for the White House and Wall Street supporting Hitler, WW2 never would have happened."
I'm not at all acquainted with the IM sites. Is this their typical clientele??? If it is, I would have to agree with Shipman. We need special cages for these people.
Posted by: RW2004   2003-12-29 2:00:14 PM  

#21  For some stupid reason, every time I hear that name "COINTELPRO" I think of the firm that services the washing machines and clothes dryers in the laundry rooms of my apartment complex....
Posted by: Bomb-a-rama   2003-12-29 1:50:12 PM  

#20  Rantburg U.,Indeed.
Come to Rantburg and learn!
Espionage,Pollitix,(brain lock,can't spell),Religion and associated madmen.

I bow to the Proffeser.
Posted by: raptor   2003-12-29 1:26:03 PM  

#19  Don't you like it when they put the footnotes at the bottom of the page, where you can quickly access them, digest their information and then just as quickly carry on with the main text.
Posted by: Lucky   2003-12-29 1:14:07 PM  

#18  As a former Spook, let me enlighten you. COINTELPRO is a simple military program that has migrated into mainstream usage because of the CIA/FBI programs of the 60's and 70's. It's an acronym for "COUNTER INTELLIGENCE PROGRAMS", a blanket identification for everything from "spoofing" to sending blatantly screwball messages to adding padding to the front, middle, and/or end of a message - such as the "turkey trots to water" and "the whole world wants to know" from famous WWII messages. Its purpose is to try to throw off the bad guys and give them heartburn, make it harder for them to collect intelligence on our forces and government, and even harder still to understand what they do get. No great conspiracy, just plain common sense and normal military operations. Since the loonely left never bothers to even TRY to understand military operations, it's all a grand conspiracy to them.
Posted by: Old Patriot   2003-12-29 12:38:40 PM  

#17  Ladies and gentleman. I give you Rantburg U.
Posted by: Lucky   2003-12-29 12:15:22 PM  

#16  As I understand it, COINTELPRO is the legendary CIA/FBI effort to infiltrate the anti-war movement in the 60s. It's "legendary" because the left has taken what was just the common police practice of using undercover agents to find information and turned it into a grand conspiracy responsible for every one of the left's excesses during the 60s, 70s, and on towards today.
Posted by: Robert Crawford   2003-12-29 11:13:35 AM  

#15  Karl Rove. Send them a check. They're one of your best weapons.
Posted by: tu3031   2003-12-29 11:11:41 AM  

#14  I hope they stay in business, better they are in the open and everyone can see how bankrupt their ideas are. Lok how well DU has shown the spotlight on the liberal cause.
Posted by: Cyber Sarge (VRWC CA Chapter)   2003-12-29 11:07:55 AM  

#13  ???http://cointelprotool.blogspot.com/???

dorf
Posted by: Anonymous   2003-12-29 11:02:17 AM  

#12  Welcome back, AC, and bestt wishes for better health in the new year. Can somebody tell me what COINTELPRO is?
Posted by: seafarious   2003-12-29 10:54:08 AM  

#11  Glad to you see you back, A.C.!
Posted by: Raj   2003-12-29 10:49:17 AM  

#10  Don't the EPA or local health authorites have regulations regarding pollution if these toxic turds are flushed down the toilet?
Posted by: ScottAK   2003-12-29 10:03:29 AM  

#9  welcome back AC - good health in '04 to ya!
Posted by: Frank G   2003-12-29 9:28:53 AM  

#8  I don't know if IM's potential demise is a good thing or not.... they acted unknowingly as a troll cage.
Posted by: Shipman   2003-12-29 8:34:10 AM  

#7  Indy media's website was paid for by somebody called Richard Stallman. The name may not mean a lot to the average Rantburger but he is well known is the software biz, and coincidentally a friend of mine was ranting about him today on a totally different subject. Stallman is the archetype loony lefty who got fairly rich almost by total accident.

Wonder why he changed his mind about funding Indymedia. Maybe an attack of concience?
Posted by: Anonymous   2003-12-29 5:18:20 AM  

#6  Welcome back AC, glad to see you on the mend.
Posted by: Gasse Katze   2003-12-29 3:30:50 AM  

#5  Death pool at the Futures Market for al-Indymedia?
Posted by: Mahmoud, the Weasel   2003-12-29 2:35:50 AM  

#4  You might be right, dog.
But there is a silver-lining in every cloud, as indicated by this post at LGF.

The open line publishing system at Indymedia gave false flag propagandists an open highway into the hearts and minds of the morlocks.

Obviously, the Indy mob were aware of this, but they never showed much ability to discern the real thing, despite their constant paranoid yammering about "COINTELPRO."
Posted by: Atomic Conspiracy   2003-12-29 2:33:19 AM  

#3  It took me 12 years, but I finally have found something good in the planned obsolescence of the computer industry. Like the rising tide that floats all boats, the obsolescence of computers affects all servers, even the ugly ones.

I suspect that they'll get their donations, though, because the libs have a lot riding on the IndyMedia concept.
Posted by: Rivrdog   2003-12-29 2:08:06 AM  

#2  The LGF regulars ("to morlocks* as morlocks are to eloi") are really whooping it up at this wonderful news; sticking the knife in and twisting it, with tabasco sauce on the blade.
(BTW, rumors of my death were not, in fact, greatly exaggerated. I suffered the annoyance of a heart attack a while back and was out of action for a while. Contrary to some reports, and some wishful thinking, this had nothing to do with Rantburg and the ravings of lefty trolls. As you see, I survived, much to the horror of some and the relief of the anointed.)
*Charles, High Priest and Lizard-King at LGF, refers to Indymedia devotees as "morlocks", from the brutish cannibalistic underground dwellers in HG Wells' The Time Machine.
Posted by: Atomic Conspiracy   2003-12-29 1:24:59 AM  

#1  Very happy news, badanov!
Posted by: Jennie Taliaferro   2003-12-29 12:14:40 AM  

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