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Iraq
82D AIRBORNE DIVISION December 4 2003
2003-12-04
During the past 24 hours, the 82nd Airborne Division and subordinate units have conducted 161 patrols, including 10 joint patrols with the Iraqi Border Guard and Iraqi Police. During these operations, 63 enemy personnel were captured and one killed while suffering no U.S. casualties.

In the 82d Airborne Division’s 3rd Brigade area of operations, paratroopers conducted a cordon and search in Nassir Wa Al Salaam to capture six members of a Wahabbist cell. Thirteen enemy personnel were captured and taken into custody for questioning. Also, several small arms weapons, various munitions, military uniforms, U.S. and Iraqi cash, counterfeit money, and improvised explosive device (IED)- making materials were confiscated during the mission.
"You got some 'splainin', to do, Mahmoud!"
"It is not ours, effendi! Somebody left it here!"
In the 1st Brigade of the 1st Infantry Division’s area of operations, elements were attacked with rocket propelled grenades (RPG) and small arms fire northwest of Khalidiyah. The unit returned fire at the point of origin and then engaged the house with three 120mm High Explosive Anti-Tank (HEAT) rounds. The unit killed one enemy and captured eight others without suffering any injuries to personnel or damage to equipment.
"Ahmed, goddammit! I've told you and told you, don't engage infidel tanks from the house! But do you listen? NO! You don't listen! Just look at this mess? Who's gonna clean up this mess? Are you gonna clean up this mess? NO! You ain't gonna clean up this mess! You're gonna be sittin' in jug, eating three times a day, while yer poor old Mum gets to rebuild the second story, and her with a bad back..."
In 3rd Armored Cavalry Regiment’s (3rd ACR) area of operations, elements executed raids on six target houses in Husaybah. The operation was conducted in response to information provided by an informant who indicated that a few Fedayeen members had returned to the area following the conclusion of Operation Rifles Blitz.
"Are they gone yet, Mahmoud?"
Houses identified in the area were sites of recent enemy ambushes. The raids resulted in the capture of 19 enemy personnel and the confiscation of various small arms weapons, IED-making materials, and a logbook of previous attacks against Coalition forces.
"Ahmed, make sure you write down every nasty thing you do to the infidels. That way we can all chuckle over it later."
"Uhhh... Hokay, boss! It ain't like they're gonna catch me and use it for evidence against me. Huh huh!"
"He said 'evidence'! Huh huh!"
The town of Husaybah, once the most hostile city in the Al Qaim area, has shown marked improvement in the form of fewer attacks following Operation Rifles Blitz.
Posted by:Chuck Simmins

#7  If your head's down - especially THAT far down - you have a very poor sight picture.

ARRGGHHH!! Okay, points granted all around. However, forgive my troops-oriented view, for I was never more than a poor but honest PFC. Seems to me the MPs/cic/delta should be rounding up these mutts for questioning, not the tankers. Tankers should be shooting off canister and protecting themselves, not trying to take prisoners (those m1a2's ain't cheap, and neither are the troops' lives). I would rather have dead mutts than dead troopers, but that's just me.
Posted by: Anonymous   2003-12-4 10:43:32 PM  

#6  A HEAT round will make a small hole in the front of the house, another, slightly larger hole in the back of the house, and make you very unpopular with your neighbors six blocks away. It will also make everyone inside the house extremely uncomfortable - to the point of trying to get under the lint on the bottom of the living room carpet. If your head's down - especially THAT far down - you have a very poor sight picture.
Posted by: Old Patriot   2003-12-4 8:00:19 PM  

#5  canister rounds In fact, the 3ID after action report sez "The 120mm antipersonnel round is in the army somewhere. It would have been very
helpful in Karbala and Al Kifl." I assume that's what we're talking about...
Posted by: snellenr   2003-12-4 3:50:09 PM  

#4  They should be using cannister, rip the mutts into little pieces instead of just sending a round whistling over their heads. Of course, I doubt the Army even has any cannister rounds in inventory, they aren't glamourous enough.

I think there's a reason for this - in Iraq, capturing people is much more important than killing them. If they kill all of these guys, the trail ends right there. If they can capture some of the perps, they can extract information leading to the capture of even more of Saddam's henchmen. I suspect this is why canister rounds are not being used - they're certainly no more difficult to deploy.
Posted by: Zhang Fei   2003-12-4 2:49:07 PM  

#3  Yeah, I kinda liked the HEAT response to the RPG.

That's ridiculous. A HEAT round is barely effective against personnel, and only marginally useful against structures. They should be using cannister, rip the mutts into little pieces instead of just sending a round whistling over their heads. Of course, I doubt the Army even has any cannister rounds in inventory, they aren't glamourous enough.
Posted by: Anonymous   2003-12-4 1:54:47 PM  

#2  Yeah, I kinda liked the HEAT response to the RPG. Killing ants with a hammer may seem pointless to you, but the ants really notice it.
Posted by: Chuck Simmins   2003-12-4 11:25:32 AM  

#1  It has occurred to me that raids are an opportunity for our guys to communicate with Iraqi informants - informants whose lives would be in danger from Saddam's henchmen if they were seen together with our people in any other circumstance. Of course, it's also a chance to recruit new informants, given that many Iraqis are undoubtedly nervous about walking up to an army patrol with information, knowing that they are being observed by an entire village. Raids give our folks the opportunity to talk to each Iraqi individually without being observed in the open by other Iraqis.
Posted by: Zhang Fei   2003-12-4 9:34:44 AM  

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