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The Draft Dodger feckless coward Dean
2003-11-23
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In the winter of 1970, a 21-year-old student from Yale walked into his armed services physical in New York carrying X-rays and a letter from his orthopedist, eager to know whether a being a p*ssy back condition might keep him out of the military draft.
Oh, this is rich!...
This was not an uncommon scene in 1970, since a large portion of American males were feckless candyasses when medical deferments were a frequently used avenue for those reluctant to take part in the unpopular war in Vietnam. And this story would have little interest save that Howard Dean was the name of the young man. Now, 33 years later, he finds himself a leading Democrat in the quest for the party’s nomination to be president of the United States.
Oh boy...
Dr. Dean got the medical deferment, but in a recent interview he said he probably could have served had he not mentioned the condition.

"I guess that’s probably true," he said. "I mean, I was a feckless candyass with a silver spoon jammed up my ass in no hurry to get into the military."
And how did ‘Dr. dickless Dean’ spend his new found free time while other men with breasts filled the breach?
In the 10 months after his graduation from Yale, time he might otherwise have spent in uniform, Dr. Dean lived the life of a ski bum in Aspen, Colo. His back condition did not affect his skiing the way the rigors of military service would have, he said, nor did it prevent him from taking odd jobs like pouring concrete in the warm months and washing dishes when it got cold.
F@^#ING ASSCLOWN!
Even the candidate’s mother, Andree Maitland Dean, said in a recent interview about his skiing after receiving a medical deferment, "Yeah, that looks bad."
Yeah, it not only looks bad. It is bad. Dr. Dean you owe an apology to all those men who lost limbs, and were killed while you played grab ass in Aspen.


Posted by:Dragon Fly

#14  "and what about your AWOL not-elected president? say something. shamericans are so dumb, they are really fucked up."

You aren't the arbiter of American elections, asshole. Shame you're such a fucked up totalitarian bigot.
Posted by: Atomic Conspiracy   2003-11-24 1:58:54 AM  

#13  Not all lib Dems are anti-military...just 80 -90%.
Posted by: LeftEnd   2003-11-24 12:16:11 AM  

#12  Jarhead-I admire your dedication to duty --but I don't think Bush or Dean have done as much for our country as you are doing! But the bottom line is Bush and all the other rich kids got a free ride during 'Nam. I would include Gore, Bush and Dean, I was fortunate enough to be too young for the draft--I can't honestly say how I would have dealt with it--but have always admired people like my Dad who were in the USMC and appreciate their service to our country, so don't assume all liberal Democrats (like ME) are anti-military
Posted by: NotMikeMoore   2003-11-23 11:35:15 PM  

#11  While we are talking about Clark.

Why did he get pulled from Kosovo?

Why are his peers dissing him? I sure you will say politics

It would be so easy for him to release his record to the public so we can make up our own minds
Posted by: capt joe   2003-11-23 10:45:34 PM  

#10  I find it hard to believe that George Bush sought to evade service in Vietnam by enlisting in a National Guard unit that was deployed to Vietnam.

HobbsOnLine on May 7, 2003 did a comprehensive debunking of this myth. He cites a New York Times investigation, as well as National Guard Magazine and the Boston Globe. His conclusions:
Indeed, in the first four years of his six-year commitment, Bush spent the equivalent of 21 months on active duty, including 18 months in flight school. His Democratic opponent, Vice President Al Gore, who enlisted in the Army for two years and spent five months in Vietnam, logged only about a month more active service, since he won an early release from service.

Incidentally, Bush flew with the 111th Fighter-Interceptor Squadron, which was attached to the 147th Fighter Wing, based in Houston, Texas. While Bush's unit never got called to Vietnam, the 147th was. From 1968 through 1970, pilots from the 147th participated in operation "Palace Alert" and served in Southeast Asia during the height of the Vietnam War. The 147th came off runway alert on Jan. 1, 1970 to start a new mission of training all F-102 pilots in the United States for the Air National Guard.

Bush enlisted as an Airman Basic in the 147th Fighter-Interceptor Group at Ellington Air Force Base, Houston, on May 28, 1968 - a a time when the 147th was actively participating in combat in Vietnam. However, one can not train overnight to be a pilot. Bush completed basic flight training and then, from December 1969 through June 27, 1970, he was training full-time at Ellington to be an F-102 pilot.

Bush volunteered to serve in a unit at the very moment it was seeing combat in Vietnam, and only a restructuring of the unit's mission before he completed his flight training made it unlikely he would fly in combat. And he was never AWOL - he completed his required service and even served beyond the minimum.
Posted by: Chuck   2003-11-23 10:33:53 PM  

#9  Look, I'm not here to defend Dean, because I think he's kind of obnoxious. But if you guys believe Bush did anything but avoid combat in Vietnam, then you are just a bunch of sycophants. And although I don't think he can be considered AWOL, he did everything to not only avoid combat, but to shirk his military duties otherwise. And if you look here I think you'll find some documentation of his poor service record. So don't go busting people's chops for not fighting what was an extremely unpopular and divisive war, especially someone like Dean, who is frankly pretty easy to attack on other grounds. By the way, what would say about Clark? Too much military service and decoration?
Posted by: J   2003-11-23 9:33:04 PM  

#8  Hi Joe!
Didn't see ya the first time thru.

Have a cookie!
Posted by: Shipman   2003-11-23 8:25:57 PM  

#7  JH I've never flown an F-102... But I expect the life expectancy of an F-102 pilot was much lower than than of a newpaper boy on the grand war tour or the local ski bum.

Posted by: Shipman   2003-11-23 8:23:58 PM  

#6  no wonder Dean's so angry! He knew this would come out
Posted by: Frank G   2003-11-23 7:54:28 PM  

#5  I'll be honest w/you joe. G.W. Bush's mil record is definitely nothing to brag about. I know he was in the champagne air force w/a lot of other rich kids from Texas - and I'll probably take fire for that comment - that's okay I'm a big boy. However, he was never charged w/anything as per RC's comment. OTOH - Should we add Clinton to the list of people w/less than shiny backgrounds? The foia has him as a felon under public law. How about Gore, who somehow only did 5 months of a 1-yr tour in 'Nam w/a bodyguard paid for by his daddy and lil' Al lying about walking point on patrols when he was really a REMF journalist...Don't make me laugh. Dean knows what he did. I believe he also wrestled at Yale but couldn't go into the mil - and spent post undergrad skiing - you do the math. You don't justify bad behavior w/bad behavior. As far as not-election goes - re-read the laws. We live in a republic, not a "true democracy" no matter how much the looney left believes that. BTW - I'm not even a republican so any anti-conservative comebacks won't work w/me. I'm curious as to what a "shamerican" is?
Posted by: Jarhead   2003-11-23 7:47:11 PM  

#4  Has anyone ever produced a piece of paper charging Bush with being AWOL?

No?

Then he was never AWOL, m'kay?
Posted by: Robert Crawford   2003-11-23 7:33:54 PM  

#3  and what about your AWOL not-elected president?
say something.
shamericans are so dumb, they are really fucked up.
Posted by: joe   2003-11-23 7:23:02 PM  

#2  Remind me again how this guy is really a blue-collar, everyman candidate who is in tune with 'working' Americans? I seem to have forgotten.
Posted by: commo   2003-11-23 7:00:00 PM  

#1  And how did ‘Dr. dickless Dean’ spend his new found free time while other men with breasts filled the breach?

Oopps! That's Chests, not Breasts! My C.S. Lewis is getting a little rusty.
Posted by: Anonymous   2003-11-23 6:44:04 PM  

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