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| Iraq |
| Talibani visits Turkey and criticizes Syria |
| 2003-11-07 |
| The Kurdish leader Jalal al-Talibani who assumed the rotating presidency of the provisional governing council in Iraq announced he will be visiting Turkey to discuss the crisis of sending Turkish forces to northern Iraq and to purify the atmospheres. This should be interesting. Talibani accused Syria of obstructing the participation of the Interim Governing Council in the meeting of the foreign ministers of Iraq’s neighboring states which was held recently in Damascus. He called on Syria, Saudi Arabia and Iran to tighten control of their borders and prevent border crossing operations to Iraq. "Close em or we’ll close them for you." |
| Posted by:Steve |
| #22 Thanx E.B for clarifying that for me. I thought I was going crazy. However the name's still good if it has the intended affect I think it will. I will check that site out. |
| Posted by: Jarhead 2003-11-7 9:25:40 PM |
| #21 Jarhead, That's the name of the Angel of Death in Islamic lore. For the whole hilarious story of Wild Dumrul, scroll down to Legend V at this site: Dimwit Dumrul fights Azrael, and doesn't do so well The Turks brought the story to New York in the wake of 9/11 as one of those "healing" gestures. I suppose it was to explain the stupidity inherent in that region of the world. The Turks put the DUUUUUUU in 'Dumrul' |
| Posted by: Ernest Brown 2003-11-7 5:32:30 PM |
| #20 Now Turkey can best be described as the depressed man of not-in-Europe. Frog on train to Turkey on arriving in Sofia. This must be Istanbul. Turk on train from Turkey to France on arriving in Sofia. This must be Paris. |
| Posted by: Shipman 2003-11-7 4:01:18 PM |
| #19 Murat: Rafael you are not man enough for that, you can only bomb some defenseless 3rd world countries who have no armies like Afghanistan and Iraq, and that mostly from distance with Tomahawks and B2s. Even Vietnamese fight better than you guys. Note that Lawrence of Arabia led a bunch of Arabs who defeated the Turks. Yes - that's right - the Turks were defeated by a bunch of Arabs in the modern era. We had Vietnam (a pseudo-defeat at most), but the Turks have had a long and honorable history of real battlefield defeats, which led to Turkey being described as the sick man of Europe throughout most of the 19th century. |
| Posted by: Zhang Fei 2003-11-7 3:33:37 PM |
| #18 Murat - bombing some third world country (if they ask for it) is much better than bombing your own people because they are diff than the majority. And if the Turks are soooo goooood then why did your spec ops get get themselves arrested in northen irag a few months ago? tyring to incite the turkmen of the are - must of failed. You know why - because Turkey (do you know the slang for a Turkey in the United States - you fucking turkey) would not want to confront the United States - and I do not think that is because our military does not know how to fight. As for the Vietamese - yes they were very good fighters but they never defeated the US on the battlefield - we did to ourselves. |
| Posted by: Dan 2003-11-7 3:12:36 PM |
| #17 Actually what's scary is that Murat's much better educated than the average Trk. |
| Posted by: Shipman 2003-11-7 1:56:20 PM |
| #16 Thanks Ptah, I get all motivated when folks like Murat (why'd he name himself after one of Napoleon's Lieutenant's anyways?) start doing the pee-pee dance about past history & U.S. military tactics they've no education of. I'm almost certain he won't post back to me as that is his usualy tactic. He does what I like to call "pussy posting" - basically he likes to shoot out a few flamers, piss off the R-Burg lads, then duck & run when the logic arrows start getting launched back at him. He may make one return post but rarely finishes a debate or thinks anything through. Which makes me sad as I was pretty fond of that last quote I threw at him. Well, I'm glad at least you liked it bro. I don't ever really get pissed at Murat. If he is the average educated Turk, then they're country is F*cked. I find him more amusing then anything else. ;) |
| Posted by: Jarhead 2003-11-7 1:29:26 PM |
| #15 Er, Murat, Iraq had a huge and feared Army for the area, relatively well-equipped as well. Ask any of its neighbors. |
| Posted by: John Anderson 2003-11-7 1:28:59 PM |
| #14 On a final note, and I'm being dead serious on this - you better pray you never met us on a battlefield. It may be Allah's job to judge you, but we will arrange the meeting. Excellent Jarhead! |
| Posted by: Ptah 2003-11-7 12:46:22 PM |
| #13 Azrael's the name of the AoD? Heck, as a Catholic I'm embarassed for not remembering that one. Thanx E.B., now I know what to name my new Doberman puppy! |
| Posted by: Jarhead 2003-11-7 12:13:31 PM |
| #12 "Better hope that Rafael isn't a Marine. Poke your head up, and all he'd need is one shot." If he didn't have guts enough to hang around here after the fall of Iraq, what makes you think he'd have the guts to -stand- on a battlefield without pissing his pants? He's what you expect from a country who's greatest "legendary hero" is a moronic, parasitic bully who blasphemes God, picks fights with Azrael, the Angel of Death and then goes crawling to his parents to beg for help. |
| Posted by: Ernest Brown 2003-11-7 11:42:05 AM |
| #11 Raf, I got this one bro'. Don't even let him goad you into being pissed. ;) "Even Vietnamese fight better than you guys." -LMFAO. Murat, that's a good one. The V.C. were very good fighters, but pound for pound, no match for us in marksmanship or hand to hand combat. I would say that maybe overall their "field craft" was better, but that's to be expected as we were in their own backyard. They were especially good from March '65 when we first officially got there to July 67'. After that, we were on to them big time. You should consider that by the end of the war the VC were no longer a combat effective fighting force due to how many we killed and the NVA took horrendous losses as well. TET was tactically an utter disaster for them despite the political harang. By the end of 1973 N.Nam had lost 11% of its entire damn population in that war. I would recommend "We We're Soldiers Once, and Young: The Battle for the Ia Drang Valley" by Hal Moore or "Operation Buffalo: USMC Fight for the DMZ" or even, "The Village." Please educate yourself before spewing such remarks. Also remember which country sent troops to your country to provide humanitarian relief during your earthquake in '99. You may hate us, I don't give a sh*t, at least remind yourself despite the politics are countries pasts together. The Turks fought side by side the U.S. Marines in N.Korea, you do your brave fore-fathers a great dis-honor w/your comments. Such men do not wish ill on their allies. On a final note, and I'm being dead serious on this - you better pray you never met us on a battlefield. It may be Allah's job to judge you, but we will arrange the meeting. |
| Posted by: Jarhead 2003-11-7 11:41:34 AM |
| #10 "you can only bomb some defenseless 3rd world countries who have no armies like Afghanistan and Iraq, " Sounds like Turkey to me. Hope you like raisins. |
| Posted by: VAMark 2003-11-7 11:40:45 AM |
| #9 Big words from Wild Dumrul the dumbass moral coward. Gonna run away and hide again, MuRAT? |
| Posted by: Ernest Brown 2003-11-7 11:35:07 AM |
| #8 Rafael you are not man enough for that, you can only bomb some defenseless 3rd world countries who have no armies like Afghanistan and Iraq, and that mostly from distance with Tomahawks and B2s. Better hope that Rafael isn't a Marine. Poke your head up, and all he'd need is one shot. |
| Posted by: Bomb-a-rama 2003-11-7 11:27:24 AM |
| #7 Not to worry it won't be the US... we got plenty of warm water ports. However now that the Russian are exporters they might start buying into the SLOC doctrine. |
| Posted by: Shipman 2003-11-7 11:22:27 AM |
| #6 Rafael you are not man enough for that, you can only bomb some defenseless 3rd world countries who have no armies like Afghanistan and Iraq, and that mostly from distance with Tomahawks and B2s. Even Vietnamese fight better than you guys. |
| Posted by: Murat 2003-11-7 10:58:26 AM |
| #5 It's already raining Yanks over the Iraqi skies. Finally crossed over to join the enemy, eh Murat? Hope we never have to meet on the battlefield pal. |
| Posted by: Rafael 2003-11-7 10:52:54 AM |
| #4 Didn't see you around yesterday, Murat. Were you too busy shedding a skin? |
| Posted by: tu3031 2003-11-7 10:36:19 AM |
| #3 Where's Abu TrollSlicer? |
| Posted by: Shipman 2003-11-7 10:35:25 AM |
| #2 You have it to give it to the British, smart guys they are for predicting a though winter in Iraq. It's already raining Yanks over the Iraqi skies. |
| Posted by: Murat 2003-11-7 10:26:21 AM |
| #1 He's Kurdish? Better be taking his bullet-proof turban with him. |
| Posted by: Charles 2003-11-7 9:31:48 AM |