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| 30 Years Since Egyptâs Victory Over Israel? |
| 2003-10-27 |
| Talk about being delusional In the war of October 1973, Egypt crushed the Israeli army of occupation. They destroyed the Barlief Line that was described by military experts as unparalleled in military history and ended the lie that Israel had an invincible army. This year for the first time Egypt is celebrating its victory throughout the month of October rather than just on the day of victory. The Egyptian mediaâs strong interest in this historical event led to the uncovering of a number of previously hidden facts about the Egyptian attack which have remained unknown until this year. Maj. G.K. Molton, a former officer in the US Air Force and considered an expert and strategic military analysis, says, âThe steps taken by Egypt and Syria on the military and political planning level greatly contributed to the victory... On the 6th of October, the Egyptian Air Force bombed all command and strategic Israeli targets in Sinai using 240 planes. In the ensuing confrontation, the Egyptians brought down 50 Israeli planes in three days â this was never admitted by Israel. The Egyptian Air Force also destroyed or damaged around a quarter of the Israeli Air Force during the war... The second and third armies then crossed the Suez Canal and broke through the Barlief Line under the cover of cannon fire... All Egyptian military battalions played their roles in an exceptional manner... The October War was truly an important triumph for Egypt and the Arab world.â Time Magazine International said of the war: âThe Egyptian soldiers crossed the Suez Canal with ease ... Within 72 hours, the Egyptian forces moved 70,000 soldiers and 70 tanks onto the eastern bank of the canal â a number that cannot be underestimated in view of the water barrier and the sand dams (of the Barlief Line). The Israeli Air Force could not destroy the crossings that the Egyptian Army constructed along the canal. Whatever Israeli planes bombed was rebuilt in record time by the Egyptian engineersâ regiment.â Israel was totally devastated even though the Egyptian forces didnât advance into Palestine. Golda Meir saved Israel by sending out an SOS which was answered by the ever-biased American administration through the great Zionist himself, Henry Kissinger, then at the peak of power. I say to Israel that Egypt is capable of defeating Israel â yesterday, today and tomorrow â and it is this that leads the Israelis to dedicate a prayer every day to the death and destruction of all Egyptians. Your nuclear arsenal wasnât the deterrent that stopped Egypt as you may have been led to believe. You were never in fact able to use anything other than nuclear mines â which are limited weapons â in fear of retaliation from Egypt. In addition, your crossing at the opening led by Ariel Sharon was the biggest mistake and had it not been for Kissingerâs interference in the negotiations at the 101st km on the Suez Canal, the number of Israeli soldiers who died would have been a great deal higher. Today Sharon repeats his mistakes â causing the death of hundreds of Jews because of his clumsy policies. Will Colin Powell or anyone else orchestrate some negotiations like those on the Suez Canal to save the Israelis from the fury of the valiant Palestinian resistance? Or will he retire at the next election leaving room for the Zionists to fuel the fire in the Middle East? |
| Posted by:tipper. |
| #16 Snellenr - Thanks for the suggestion! |
| Posted by: Laurence of the Rats 2003-10-28 9:42:45 AM |
| #15 Am reminded of the resounding victory of Field Marshal Paulus and the 6th Army at Stalingrad... _________________________________borgboy |
| Posted by: borgboy 2003-10-27 9:19:21 PM |
| #14 Was this article written by everyone's favorite Minister of Information? |
| Posted by: Swiggles 2003-10-27 3:24:19 PM |
| #13 Rats: I enjoyed "Two O'Clock War" by Walter J. Boyne. Subtitled "The 1973 Yom Kippur Conflict and the Airlift That Saved Israel", it uses the uses the establishment of the re-supply airlift as a framework for an interesting history of events before, during, and after the war. It's available from Amazon... |
| Posted by: snellenr 2003-10-27 3:16:03 PM |
| #12 Old Patriot, can you (or anybody else) recommend a good book on the '73 war? I wish Oren would do one like his '67 book. |
| Posted by: Laurence of the Rats 2003-10-27 2:54:35 PM |
| #11 Actually IDF aircraft losses were pretty severe - but not due to enemy air action. Everything to do with the Soviet designed and manned (?) sam belt. Once the Egyptians got to the edge of the sam umbrella it was good nite nurse. The IAF started taking SEAD seriously about then. |
| Posted by: Shipman 2003-10-27 2:30:26 PM |
| #10 Hey, anyone who can deny the Holocaust or call 9/11 a US or Jooo plot or believe that Jooos Control the World (the moonbat list is quite impressive) can certainly believe this. The Arab world could be better described as Fantasia / Fantasy Land / Fantasy Island / ??? - your choice. And nothing but having their noses rubbed in it seems to work, either. So... |
| Posted by: .com 2003-10-27 2:03:52 PM |
| #9 The Egyptian Air Force also destroyed or damaged around a quarter of the Israeli Air Force during the war... Yep. The Egyptians destroyed a quarter of the Israeli ammunition by bravely ramming it with their planes. |
| Posted by: Robert Crawford 2003-10-27 1:52:19 PM |
| #8 The ^*(^%*&%&^*&^ October 1973 war kept me from getting an all-expenses paid vacation to Israel from Uncle Sam. Yeah, I watched the Egyptians "destroy" Israel. What a load of crap. The Israelis had a long line of defenses spread out from the Mediterranean to the Red Sea, with a few additional outposts along the Red Sea down to Sharm al Shaik. The whole thing didn't amount to two batallions. It was a tripwire, nothing more. The Egyptians managed to cross in three places, mainly because the Israeli Air Force was busy destroying the Air Forces of Egypt, Syria, and Jordan. As soon as the Arab air assets were destroyed, the main Israeli Army struck, and drove the Egyptians back into the Suez. The Egyptians lost almost half a million men, including more than 80,000 captured. I have no idea who this Maj. G. K. Molton is. I spent the time between 1966 and 1991 in Air Force intelligence, and knew most of the guys that worked the Imagery side. His name doesn't stir any memories. |
| Posted by: Old Patriot 2003-10-27 12:58:26 PM |
| #7 30 Years Since Egyptâs Victory Over Israel? Uh huh. That explains why Israel gave back the Sinai in 1979. Yep, they "won" thirty years ago all right. |
| Posted by: Bomb-a-rama 2003-10-27 11:01:05 AM |
| #6 Man! I sure do love those victories where the enemy has my army surrounded and his troops further into my territory than the starting line of the war! Crack cocaine, it ain't just for breakfast anymore. |
| Posted by: Laurence of the Rats 2003-10-27 10:39:59 AM |
| #5 Man I love these alternate history stories... Is this link from Strategy Page? |
| Posted by: Shipman 2003-10-27 10:05:40 AM |
| #4 tu -- no, they surprised us at Pearl Harbor. It's an important distinction to make when you try to understand the overall context -- and the point I was trying to make here... I could take the first punch against a pro fighter I met on the street, and maybe give him a bruise. But I wouldn't throw the last punch in the fight... |
| Posted by: snellenr 2003-10-27 9:56:15 AM |
| #3 Ummmmmmmm... snellnr. They did beat us at Pearl Harbor. |
| Posted by: tu3031 2003-10-27 9:34:36 AM |
| #2 By this measurement, it's been nearly 62 years since Japan's victory over the U.S. at Pearl Harbor... |
| Posted by: snellenr 2003-10-27 9:30:51 AM |
| #1 ref. the Bulldog comment at 9:18 |
| Posted by: Brian 2003-10-27 9:17:14 AM |