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Syria-Lebanon
More on the Hezbollah-Israeli prisoner exchange...
2003-09-24
From Debka...
The Hizballah list reportedly includes 19 Lebanese prisoners, 40 Palestinian and a group of other Arab captives for the three bodies, Tanenboim and a personal undertaking by Nasrallah to dig for information about the fate of Ron Arad. This fresh chance of a real trade has come about — not because the Hizballah leader has changed his spots overnight, but because he is being squeezed by circumstances beyond his control. DEBKAfile’s intelligence sources reveal that a major political upheaval is in progress in Lebanon that has seriously diminished the Shiite terrorist group’s standing and bargaining capability.
Here's the important part...
It consists of two major events:
1. The United States is in mid-ploy for dislodging Syria from its positions of influence in Lebanon. The two Lebanese figures to watch are prime minister Rafiq Hariri and the former president Michel Aoun.
This is kind of a long-term process, but it's been underway since before the smoke cleared after Sammy was gone...
2. Heads of important Shiite hawzas in Lebanon, including Hizballah’s spiritual leader Sayed Mohd Hussein Fadlallah, have applied to depart Lebanon and relocate in the Iraqi Shiite holy towns of towns of Najaf and Karbala.
This part's true, too. Mullah Fudlullah's been trying to distance himself from Hezbollah for the past couple years, a process that's accelerated since we went into Iraq. Lebanon's an Islamic backwater — Najaf is the big turban for Shiite clerics...
DEBKAfile’s sources stress that the Lebanese clerics, far from being put off by the unrest in Iraq, are anxious to be part of what they regard as an epic process taking place between the Iraqi Shiite majority and the United States. This process is of pivotal importance in the global war on terror and future US relations with Islam. They see Iraq as the center of gravity of this important process and do not want to be shunted aside with Nasrallah and his terrorist group while it is fermenting.
Like I said — Lebanon's the sticks, Hezbollah's an idea whose time has gone. With Syria out, and Yasser dead, it's all downhill. Iraq's still chock full of possibilities...
The fulfillment of these two processes – by-products of the Iraqi war – threatens to leave the Hizballah marooned in the Lebanese backwater without Syrian protection and minus the spiritual backbone that elevated the organization to its unique standing in the Shiite world. Nasrallah senses his comedown is near and knows he is left with two hard choices: Either launch a ferocious military-cum-terror assault on Israel — in defiance of the prohibition from the Syrian and Iranian rulers (“Help the Palestinians, but only from a distance,” he has been told by Tehran.); or jump aboard the US-backed bandwagon rushing to take over in Beirut. To do this, he must first disencumber himself of the Israeli prisoner issue which has become an impediment
Hopping aboard the U.S. bandwagon implies doing a 180. Plus there's the little matter of 251 dead Marines. Unleashing the terror war gets a conventional response, with piles of corpses. The IDF's passed the tipping point on taking out the head cheeses in terror organizations, so Nasrallah's neck's on the line if they go that way...
Therefore, while the Israeli media cling to their habitual manner of presenting Nasrallah as holding the high ground on the prisoner issue, the truth is that the trump cards have landed in Israel’s hands — if only its leaders are canny enough to play them to advantage.
I agree with Debka's analysis on this. Someone ought to send it to Ted Kennedy. We wouldn't be at this point if we hadn't gone into Iraq, and the changes that have been wrought since April have been pretty significant. Five months from now Lebanon's going to look even more different...
Posted by:Fred Pruitt

#9  OK, Boys! Break out the Ouija Board! We're goin' into Lebanon and then to the Bekaa Valley. OP, thanks for the imagery (no pun intended). I needed the break this afternoon.
Posted by: Alaska Paul   2003-9-24 7:17:18 PM  

#8  I've written a few (thousand) intelligence reports, and I still find DEBKA a strange piece of writing. My reports were written based on firsthand extraction of intelligence information from US reconnaissance imagery. I won't say I've never used words like "possible", "probable", or other weasel-words, but I always tried to convey to my reader that I knew what I was talking about, and my information could be trusted. I find DEBKA a conundrum - sometimes appearing brilliant, at other times like they had no clue under the sun what they were talking about. As for Lebanon, who in this world can EVER know what's going on there? I kept close track of the country during its decades-long civil wars. I was in Germany when the Marine barracks was blown. I was in Germany a second time (actually third) when we were looking for Terry Waite in Beirut and elsewhere. The country has more going for it than most Arab nations, but also has the most contorted politics that word have ever been used to describe. Anyone trying to discipher what's going on there would be better off using a Ouija board.
Posted by: Old Patriot   2003-9-24 6:37:50 PM  

#7  Since I discovered the DEBKA during the Afghanistan war, I've been wary of its accuracy, more or less as a great "rumors" site. Credibility of the news is inversely proportionnal to their spectacularity value, with political powerplays analysis being very interesting. IIRC, I read somewhere (here?) that the writings were typical of thoses found in military intelligence press releases, so it may be more indicative of right wing military types than mossad's agenda. Still like it a lot.
Posted by: Anonymous   2003-9-24 1:26:21 PM  

#6  Polonius - Your disclaimer regards DEBKA reporting accuracy is well taken. It is also intuitively obvious to the casual observer that they take more chances, if that is the right word, than any other Western outlet - for what that's worth.

Funny, though... I would estimate that, if there was a Truth in Journalism Squad empowered to do so, they would have to publish no more retractions than many vaunted outlets, such as the New Yellow Times, Boston Butt Probe Globe, Certainly Not News, etc, or that rash of British pubs and their Forced Finance Queen (the Beeb) which border on being the Official Izzoid / Arab / Paleo Apology Press, Inc.

To press the point a little, when compared to the Arab "Press", well shit Polonius, DEBKA is a phriggin' veritable Beacon of Truth.

So, hokay, fair enuff - I'm prepared to discount it - and remember its warts and mistakes... and toss most of the aforementioned Editorial Whores completely out the window. Sound about right to you? Or are you trying to say more than what you did say?
Posted by: .com   2003-9-24 3:57:33 AM  

#5  Debka has a very mixed track record. For example, it insisted that there is vast underground city beneath Baghdad, in which the top brass were hinding. Wrong. It also reported various and sundry countries to which Saddam had fled, Lebanon being the most frequently mentioned. Wrong. Debka appears to be a media outlet for Mossad, or some such agency, and should be so approached. Care must be taken to sift kernels of truth from the chaff of propaganda.

One of Debka's still-adhered to positions (as opposed to the many it has conveniently forgotten) is that Iraq's WMDs are in Syria or the Bekka valley in Lebanon (which is under Syrian control). (Debka has conveniently forgotten that it first reported Iraq's WMDs to have been loaded onto ships for an oceanic purgatory.) Now, if we detach Syria from Lebanon, then we should find these WMDs. We should also have some special ops guys having a little look-see inside Syria proper. I actually suspect that, if anyone had the slightly reason to suspect Debka was right, special ops has already checked out these sites. But, as credible-sounding as the claims are (a sine qua non of propaganda), probably Debka is blowing more smoke up our tailpipes.

Obviously I read Debka, but I do so only to gain insight into what Israel's right wing is thinking. I know nothing about prisoner exchanges, and after reading Debka's report I still don't.
Posted by: Polonius   2003-9-24 3:18:35 AM  

#4  Elmer Fadlallah wants to take up residence in Iraq? Ha ha ha ha.
Posted by: Bomb-a-rama   2003-9-24 2:19:31 AM  

#3  SW - Me like! And my thoughts exactly! Is this sack of shit insane - or just too stupid to live? No matter, ya gotta love it! I wonder how long Israel has wanted to get their hands on Fadlallah (what a moniker)... Well, if we can help by offering "residence" in Iraq, hey, what are friends for? Ka-ching!
Posted by: .com   2003-9-24 2:10:05 AM  

#2  Heads of important Shiite hawzas in Lebanon, including Hizballah’s spiritual leader Sayed Mohd Hussein Fadlallah, have applied to depart Lebanon and relocate in the Iraqi Shiite holy towns of towns of Najaf and Karbala.

It would be okay with me if they wanted to take up residence in Karbala -- well not exactly in Karbala, but sorta near it. We could provide a "residence" and "security" for them so that they could ponder spiritual matters "in isolation" unemcumbered by any "interactions" with the "real world."

How's that for scare quotes?
Posted by: Steve White   2003-9-24 12:35:37 AM  

#1  I read a couple of years ago that Lebanon wanted to become the regional banking center of the ME.

For what it's worth. They want to be a player.
Posted by: Anonymous   2003-9-24 12:24:49 AM  

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